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I also was conscious during an operation to repair a deviated septum. I could hear the noise of a hammer hitting a chisel-like devise and then realized it the chisel was in my nose after feeling my head shake in response to the impact. I was trying to make a noise and move. I could see images in the room as well, but not very clearly. I could also hear the conversations in the room, and remember hearing someone say “I think he’s awake”. I don’t recall anything after that.

While in the recovery room, I mentioned this episode to the surgeon, and he immediately dismissed it as some kind of dream. He probably thought I was going to file a malpractice lawsuit.

RE: GIRL BORN WITH TWO FACES

What God has 2 faces in the Hindu religion? I understand the medical ramifications of having 2 faces, but as the Left sided Liberals want us to be, shouldn’t we be culturally sensitive to what they believe and not try and go in and change this child’s appearance? If we do, isn’t that exactly what the Left believes we are doing to the rest of the world by making them be more like us here in the U.S.? My belief is not on that side of the fence, when it comes to the politics of it all, but I just thought that I’d bring that up to make the Liberals think, “Where do we stop trying to help people around the world? At the birth defects or mass genocidal killings?” And if we help, then how do we do it WITHOUT the Military? Unfortunatly, “Pacifist can not be kept safe without a force willing to protect them”. (Some Intelectual person early 1900’s))

RE: ANESTHESIA AWARENESS

I awoke during an appendectomy back in 1972 when I was 15 years old. All I can recall was a yellowish tint to the lighting in the OR due to Vasoline on my eyes. I remember struggling somewhat and raising my head. Then a shadowy figure with a white cap pressed my head down on the table and then placed a black mask over my face. The ether began to flow and the next thing I recalled was waking up in my hospital room to my Mom’s voice.

RE: ANESTHESIA AWARENESS

I was also awake during surgery, but the Dr’s. said it was not possible. I was not in pain, but I could hear them talking.

RE: GIRL’S GROWTH STUNTED

I had a brother who was severly handicapped shortly after birth. My parents and I took care of him for 25 years. We never regretted keeping him at home. The only other option would have been to institutionalize him. As he grew to over 125 pounds he became difficult to transfer and to take care of. We did it despite of the problems his size created.
I applaud the family for deciding to care for their daughter at home. She will be able to experience the love of her parents every day. I think the option to stunt her physical development was the proper option to use. It will make her life and that of her parents much easier. Her mental development, whatever it may be, is not compromised.
As for those who shout that the “state” should have prevented this, I say, who has the right to tell loving parents what to do with their childrens health. So long as the child’s life is not in jeopardy, no one other than the parents are qualified to make those decisions.
As long as doctors have the authority, and the medical profession doesn’t question that authority, to end an iunborn nfant’s life then there is no room to now stand on a soap box and condem the parents’ actions.

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This happened to my Godmother. She has described waking up during surgery as a nightmare you will never forget. You couldn’t move to let the doctors know you are awake. The pain is so intense, it can’t be desribed. I am now terribly afraid to have surgery or for any of my love ones to. I don’t know what the answer is, but something must be done about this. Barbara W Osceola AR

RE: ANESTHESIA AWARENESS

The study showed that the BIS monitor DID NOT PREVENT AWARENESS DURING SURGERY. In other words, it DOES NOT WORK. This is not the first time a large study has shown the monitor DOES NOT WORK.

Anesthesiologists like me don’t avoid it because of the cost - we avoid it because there’s no proof it does anything useful.

Spokespeople for the company should be viewed for what they are - shills trying to make a buck by scaring the public.

RE: GIRL’S GROWTH STUNTED

I have thought long and hard about the girl that had the surgery to stunt the growth and agree this child has to deal with so much as it is. Her parents and her self is who has to live their daily lives not everyone in this country who are we to say what needs to happen in there house hold. As a parent can you imaging the stress that is related to this and why would we not take what pain we can away if we are able I would for my girls if they had a disability that may interfer with their daily lifes. Why let this happen to them to.. She goes through enough. I feel for the family of the Doctor I feel he did what was right and he knew in his heart it was right or he would not have done this they take a othe and I feel he meet my expectations of a great doctor. I feel that the Goverment shouldn’t always be in our patient rooms.

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During my operation in September of 2006 for a colon sectioning, I woke up. I saw the face of the doctor and struggled to move or say something. He told me everything was okay and to just relax and breath. Not only could I not say anything, blink or move… I could not breathe… I was terrified. I felt like I was suffocating.
The next thing I remember was the recovery room.
When I told my doctor about it, he said he had never heard of such a thing. Then I told everyone who came into my room in the hospital… I got a lot of sympathic looks, but no validation. Then came the nightmares, the broaken sleep patterns, and the self questioning as to this being all a dream.
Three months later after pressing my doctor for answers, he told me to call the hospitals chief of anesthesiology. I did and was assured it was not a dream, it was not in my imagination, and while the data from my records did not indicate anything abnormal, he believed me and would put it on my records for future reference. What a relief to finally have validation.
He explained that within seconds of receiving the initial anesthesia, another drug to immobilize the body is administered, (so there will be no movement during surgery) and that it was possible this was given too soon before I was fully under.
Don’t know if this is what really happened, but it was good enough to give me some answers to a terrifying ordeal.

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That happened to me in 2001. I was having a broken arm screwed back together, 3 surgeries for it over 6 days…fun fun. I remember waking up and being told something like, “shh, go back to sleep” and that was it. I even remember the tube in my mouth but don’t remember the pain. Everyone told me it didn’t happen but I thought different.

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Years ago, I too woke up during surgery for a deviated septum. I remember hearing the staff around me talking about what they will be doing during that weekend… laughing and joking around… I remember saying to myself… “Hey, they should be paying more attention here since they are working on my face.” I always thought surgery was a serious matter and was disillusioned that day that my case was just run-of-the-mill for the folks around me.

I remember the crackerling and pressure on my face / nose as they were cutting and bearing down. Along with feeling of the septum giving way, when the cutting was complete. Then they started caurterizing (bad spelling) my nose.. I could hear the sound, was aware of the smell of burning flesh and the rising of smoke up my nostrils.

I cried out loud “PAIN” and they were startled.. “Is she awake?” they said. “NO” was the reply. I said “PAIN” again… “Oh my God” I heard… and I was then out.

I brought this up afterwards to the staff and they said I was mistaken… Right…. It was all a figment of my imagination, due to the drugs…

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In 2003 I had a hip replacement. I remember waking up with my Dr. straddleing me, working on my hip. I felt the tugging and heard the saw, but i felt no pain. I must have moved, because the nurse turned to me and ask if I was alright. Thats all I remember. When I woke up from surgery, the Dr. came in to check on me. He told me I was combative during surgery. It never bothered me since I felt no pain. If there had been pain….I am sure my story would be different.

RE: GIRL BORN WITH TWO FACES

I happen to think she’s beautiful! I hope she’s healthy enough for us to watch her grow up…like we have been able to do with other special children.

Yucch!

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Hate to say it, but my employer is full of two faced babies. We certainly don’t consider them to be gods.

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This is great two phone oerators for the price of one

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I’d like someone out there– Dr. Manny would be great– to offer an explanation as to why this phenomenon of multiple extra limbs/ faces/ etc. happens so often in third-world countries. My understanding is that it is usually two fetuses that fuse together early in gestation–? Why don’t we see it here in the U.S.? What causes it? Do risk factors include poor nutrition?

RE: Baby With Two Faces

I believe strongly that gods do not need help from the government so if the baby’s parents are requesting help from the government then it is an indication that this little baby needs the parents to make the right decision by seeking some serious medical help. Make no mistake about it. It is the parents responsibility to help this child fit into society by making the right decision to seek for medical help if they are planing to take this baby to school and expect that people will treat this child as a human being and not a god

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I hope the parents and child DO get help because they are certainly going to need it.

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Is this possibly one of those births where twins mutated together? Do they have separate throats and brains? So many questions, so little answers in that article.

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To answer Patrick, Kali is sometimes depicted as having 2 faces, Compassionate Mother/Warrior Destructor. Lakshmi is sometimes shown with multiple faces as well.

I’ll Just say that in a country that doesn’t value women as highly as men, and where they grow up poor & many cannot marry due to insufficient doweries, and with the sad possibility that, unlike the child Lakshmi, born with multiple limbs, chances are that this baby’s condition might not be alleviated by amputation (especially if both sides of her face are functional or have seperate brain function to some degree) I would hope that most people saw this child as a fortunate, divine, beautiful being, then to shun her as a freak, or leave her to die, or not show her love or affection.

If this “affliction” had to happen, and if it’s not reversable, then I am glad it happened in a place that will look on her as a Goddess personified, help her family, and hold her in high esteem rather then to treat her like a sad, poor, unfortunate oddity.

I wish them all well.

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I was awake during open heart surgery, and believe me you feel pain,and i was argueing with them while it was going on and they were laughing at me and saying ok tuff guy,but i couldn’t move. when i saw them the next day and i said what’s up tuff guy, there jaw almost hit the floor.next thing you know the hospitol lawer was talking to me. i thought they were sick and just trying to torcher me. I think the only thing that saved me was passing out from the pain. i do fit into your catagory of high risk people. I can’t believe so many people have felt this, i feel bad for them. exspecialy women and children.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Why so many grotesgue deformities in India, what is causing it?

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There’s no way this baby survived. If it was alive, it wouldn’t sleep through that live music. Sadly, I think that’s a dead baby everyone is worshiping.

Re: Anesthesia Awareness

Mark Rosen, a senior anesthesiologist and vice chairman of anesthesiology at the University of California San Francisco Children’s Hospital, who had himself suffered the rare experience of anesthesia awareness, states that he applauds the Avidan study for “convincingly revealing the BIS monitor for what it is - unreliable for clinical practice”. Avidan himself states objectively, and clearly with no subjective agenda or personal axe to grind “larger, follow-up studies need to be done to replicate or refute these findings”.

Surely, the least the manufacturers and promoters of the BIS equipment should do is to offer the Avidan team the same professional courtesy with which their own (Be Aware) study was treated by the Avidan team. They should refrain from emotive and judgemental responses, pending conclusions from the promised larger follow-up studies. These, we hope will ultimately arrive at the scientifically and statistically most valid conclusion for the good of those who ultimately count - the patients!

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Just another example of why religion, of any kind, is so silly.

RE: Baby Born With Two Faces

She is GORGEOUS!!! It is so enlightening to me to see the people of India celebrating this child as they did the baby born with 8 limbs- another beautiful child. Best wishes to BOTH families!

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My heart goes out to that poor little girl and her family. What I don’t understand is, how, in this day & age can people be so ignorant as to think that this baby is anything but a baby w/a horrible birth defect.

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I hope they leave her alone and let her live out her life expectancy without trying to “fix” her medically as that would not even seem possible. I too think she is beautiful just the way she is. God Bless her, and her family for loving & accepting her the way God made her. Too rare in this world.

RE: Girl With Two Faces

If she had been born in Medieval Europe or 17th century America she would have been considered the Devil’s spawn. She is fortunate to be born in a time where she is appreciated for her uniqueness in her home, and has the advanced medical knowledge available to help with any physical problems caused by the abnormality.

RE: Girls Growth Stunted

I extensively read the background on this case. The parents did the right thing, and this option should be more available to others in the same situation.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

This child should be put down at birth. It is cruel to live like this. She will be just experimental subject for doctors and suffer years of discomfort and ridicule.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

My prayers and thoughts go out to her family. I hope she continues to thrive, grow, and live as beautiful as she is.

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Why is it that this type of stuff ALWAYS seems to happen in India?

Comment by Diane
March 14th, 2008 at 9:31 am
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This child should be put down at birth. It is cruel to live like this. She will be just experimental subject for doctors and suffer years of discomfort and ridicule.

–>Well aren’t you just the raging *******. What a jerk!!! The baby is beautiful and is being accepted in her society rather than being shunned…

RE: Baby With Two Faces

“This child should be put down at birth.”

This comment makes me sick. This is a human child you’re talking about, not some maimed animal. What the hell is wrong with you?

RE: Baby With Two Faces

It happens all over the place. China and India have more births and thus more of a chance for abnormalities, probabiltiy wise.

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Lord bless that child because that child will have a hard life i hope not because all children deserve to be treated with love & respect.

To Ray Pauley, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD. REMEMBER THAT, WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE THE LORD ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT!

RE: BABY WITH TWO FACES

How come India’s population is always having children with extra limbs and faces and whatnots? I would seriously think that something is going on with the environment, (water, land, biochemicals in the air). These men and women come to the US all the time as doctors, what is really going on? Is someone experimenting on these people or what?!

RE: Baby With Two Faces

It is always sad to see the mistakes of nature. This looks like a botched set of twins. The baby will need some serious help in the future. I hope she gets it.

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Amen to what Nette said.

Also in response to Diane about putting a baby like this down at birth - Who are you to say what quality of life this child will have? It makes me sick when people look at this child like some sort of monster or freak circus show. This child is a human being! Every child is a blessing. I pray this child will have her needs met and will live a very fulfilled life. I hope she is cared for and loved like every child should be.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

that’s amazing
how often does this anomily occur?

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This is about as ridiculous as Christians when they say that God is judging New Orleans or the gays. Just from a different cultural point of view.

DIANE IS A IGNORANT *****

RE: Baby With Two Faces

This child could be the poster child for New York political leadership.

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Every child is a blessing! I am thrilled everyone around her seems to know that too! As long as she has a loving family surrounding her…that’s all that matters.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Put down at birth!? That is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever heard. What kind of monster are you to suggest a thing like that? You’re the one with the deformity– in your heart and soul if you can think such a thing. Shame on you.

RE: Two faced baby

I t would seem to me that a person with two faces might be able to get along at least as well as a person with two heads. Lookit this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMzK6iz6uVs

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Only in India would a child born with a deformity be worshiped as a god…
Remember recently the story on FOX about the girl in India that was born with a third arm? what did the people do?…yup….worshiped her as a reincarnated goddess.

RE: ANESTHESIA AWARENESS

Unfortunately your doctor is somewhat naive. I worked in pharmaceutical diversion with the Cincinnati PD and that is a perfect example of what happens when the anesthesiologist is stealing the medication and undermedicating the patient. This is too uncommon and many times goes undetected for years. Medical personnel stealing patients drugs is one of the most under-reported crimes and very hard to detect. Most police departments don’t even have a pharmaceutical investigator. Our department used to arrest a medical official (doctor, nurse, anesthesiologist, etc.) once every five days.

RE: Baby With Two Faces

I can’t even imagine how that poor two-faced baby is going to survive. It’s basically conjoined twins who are joined at the face, isn’t it?

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That advertisement preceeding the video of the baby with two faces is disgusting and in bad taste.

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now this is the oddest thing I ever heard.I mean come on! a god? I mean I believe in the one true God but not this!

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1this is the oddest thing a two-faced human I serousley hope they could help them

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bring the little children unto him. Don’t worship them. But in a heathen nation that worships animals. It is unfortunate.

The little girl is precious and it is good she is being loved and welcomed. But she’s no god …

Pray for the lost parents and may their hearts be comforted during the future years trials that are to come.

Oh yeah and remind me not to drink the water over there if I ever visit

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I too have had this awful experience. I had eye surgery on both eyes with local anesthetic. It was supposed to be painless. The first surgery was. The second one was hell on earth. I felt like they were sewing on my eye with fish hooks. The agony went on for about a half hour and even though I was essentially awake and begging them to stop, they wouldn’t until they were done. I’m now so petrified of surgery I’d rather die first before I’d submit to any. I have post traumatic stress symdrome, totally untreated. I’m on many medicines and have no idea if they interacted with the anesthesia or not. No one seems to care one way or the other what happens to us. We’re guinea pigs. I also found out later the surgery, which was meant to put drainage holes in my eyes due to glaucoma, was totally unecessary and a waste of time. I’m left like this for no reason at all. I’m very bitter and trying to resolve this on my own. Thanks for listening.

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I read the Associated Press article “Monitors Don’t Stop 30,000 Americans From Waking Up During Surgery”. I am one of those 30 thousand who woke up during a surgical proceedure and experienced horrific pain. When I tried to say that I am in pain.( I remember pulling at the sheets and kicking to make them aware that I am awake), I overheard the doctor say ” she won’t remember”. In fact, I remember it only too well, an experience I shall carry with me for the rest of my life.

Sincerely,
Angelika Latsey

RE: Baby With Two Faces

Chances are this condition will be untreatable, especially if both faces work, & OR there is brain function for each. To answer Lisa….

Comment by Lisa
March 14th, 2008 at 8:59 am
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“My heart goes out to that poor little girl and her family. What I don’t understand is, how, in this day & age can people be so ignorant as to think that this baby is anything but a baby w/a horrible birth defect.”

In this day and age, where HERE, this baby would be looked at as having a “horrible birth defect” and treated, at best, like some “poor” unfortunate, and at worst like a freak by people less “ignorant”, Thank HER Gods that she was born in India where she is being treated as a divinity incarnate, as being a sign of good fortune, and her family is being asked for blessings!

I think, if this can’t be surgically helped, that she was born in a far better place, with a far better attitude, then if she had been born in our enlightened society that would rather treat her as subhuman rather then superhuman.

She’s where she’s needed, wanted, & loved by many, how can that possibly make her poor or those who love her ignorant?

RE: Baby With Two Faces

I think the child is born with a deformity that needs to be addressed and be treated as soon as possible.
I know that there are excellent Medical Doctors in India to do the job.
The parents of the child need to communicate and put pressure on the local and national Health Institutions to help the new born to get the interventions needed.

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This is some weird stuff. I’ve never heard of a baby born with 2 faces. I’ve heard of conjoined twins. But never this. Maybe she is a blessing from God. Of maybe it’s just a deformality that people are born with every now and then. I don’t know. What did the mother eat when she was pregnant with the girl? Did she pick on someone else’s child when she was pregnant? I don’t know. Or maybe it’s some kind of sick curse. Or, Maybe she’s some kind of goddess or something.

If this little girl is a reincarnated god, why would her parents be concerned over medical treatments? If she truly is a god, would she have medical problems that humans would have the audacity to try to remedy? Its one or the other - either she is a human who has been born with extensive birth analomies, or she is a god. If whe is human, then she deserves no worship. If she is a god, then she needs no help.

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It makes me sad that this girl will not live a normal healthy life. But it makes me angry that people are so stupid as to worship other human beings as gods. Might as well trot out the golden calf.

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It is not a surprise that the pagan beliefs associated with this attraction deem two-faced as Godliness. Did Jesus not call satan the father of lies?!

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44 KJV

Oh, this is so good, and this is a very precious child… i hope the parents do not do nothing to the babies face for any surgery. This child is special and was born like this for a reason… and i hope the parents do nothing to the child. Oh, this is amazing, i am shocked 2 faces like a lamb.. Bible prophecy is being filled…. WOW! how amazing this is… Anyone who has any nerve to talk or even cut any child down for anything should ask for forgiveness…

This is totally amazing! I’m curious about the details of their body….Do they share a brain? Will they have seperate personalities? We need a followup to this story with more details please!

wonder if they share thoughts??
they give the baby(s) two names or one?

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We