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	<title>Comments on: Will Obama&#8217;s Healthcare Reform Make Doctors Happier?</title>
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		<title>By: R Govindan</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17456</link>
		<dc:creator>R Govindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lot of expectations from Obama. The first step is as the proverb goes &#039;Physician Heal Thyself&#039;. The medical fraternity needs to clearly chalk out the problem areas concerning each and every medical body, to stem out a program which is a ideal solution voicing the concerns of many. It would not be a bad idea to get people from main stream into the medical training and thus weed out the pertinent shortage issue, reducing stress on the doctors. As for Obama he surely has his hands full at the moment, but he would not hesitate to spark up reforms for CHANGE..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lot of expectations from Obama. The first step is as the proverb goes &#8216;Physician Heal Thyself&#8217;. The medical fraternity needs to clearly chalk out the problem areas concerning each and every medical body, to stem out a program which is a ideal solution voicing the concerns of many. It would not be a bad idea to get people from main stream into the medical training and thus weed out the pertinent shortage issue, reducing stress on the doctors. As for Obama he surely has his hands full at the moment, but he would not hesitate to spark up reforms for CHANGE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17372</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Registered Nurse since 1995, primarily in OBGYN/Labor and Delivery, but with a Generalist background for 4 years  while Active Duty Navy, I can honestly say we are headed for the perfect storm in Health Care.  All of the issues listed on this blog, Plus:

1) Such completely unrealistic patient expectation, that it borders on Fantastical(  Disclaimer: I think I may have made up this word...) i.e. ACOG&#039;s endorsement of C/sec&#039;s on  patient demand. Since when does the patient have the years of theory and experience of Fetal/Maternal Medicine to march in and demand a C/sec, because they are afraid of ruining their vagina? 

2) The Aging, Obese, Sedentary life style and SAD ( Standard American Diet) causing 1/3 of our 
society to be obsese with  an enormous number of expensive Co Morbidities. 

3) The over use of the limited health care resources used by the aforementioned group, what percentage of American&#039;s would die without a week of their Meds, perhaps a 1/3, that&#039;s pretty scary, especially when most of those disease states are life style preventable. 

4) EMR as the answer, give me a break! I work at a large HMO in Southern Cal.  and we just went to 100% EMR, Inpatient and Outpatient, and I will admit it does help tremendously with certain aspects of Bedside care, i.e instant look up of patient&#039;s entire Medical Hx, current labs etc, it also adds about 1 to 2 hours to every 8 hour  shift, in the shear volume of information, mostly useless regulatory charting requirments that you have to pick through to get what you are looking for, that it takes me 10  to 20 mins just to read all the notes, labs and etc to present the patient to my brain so I can telephone triage their complaint.  Now I have this time, I am a RN, but providers in the clinic who are double and triple booked into 20 min slots, Yeah ROB, doctors work 20 hours a week? According to my math it is more like a 60 to 80 hour work week,  depending on how many patient&#039;s they see, which has to be A LOT b/o cr---y reimbursement, Would a great Hair Dresser charge anything less than $100 for a 20 min Hair Cut? Not where I live and how much education do they have? 1 year? But women pay this amount routinely. If you break down the hourly rate and thtow in overhead,  I can assure you they do not make a ton, with the exception of Orthopedic  and Plastic Surgeons.   Compared to my Attorney brother in law who works 60 hours a week, makes $250,000 per year plus a guranteed $100,000 yearly bonus, and he does not have to nightly worry about being sued, or that he forgot something in the daily INSANE multi tasking that has to be done to stay afloat.  AND I can guarantee it will not decrease Med errors.

5) Finally, this Economic crisis, which comes at the same time as  the Health Care Crisis, Education Crisis,  Food and Water shortages caused in part  by Climate Change, and  an exploding population, 
and WOW, I am going to make as much money as I can now, buy a VW van and a Yurt and hope for the best.    Thank You  to all my fellow Care Givers who routinely put the needs of our patient&#039;s before our own.  I can&#039;t count , the times are too numerous, how many times I have skipped lunch and breaks in a 12 hour shift and held my bladder for 10 or more hours, just to make sure that the 15 patient&#039;s I was in charge of with just myself and a Corpsman, were medicated for their pain and calm and comfortable. How many other profession&#039;s require this? 

Sincerely,  A Frustrated Nurse, Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Registered Nurse since 1995, primarily in OBGYN/Labor and Delivery, but with a Generalist background for 4 years  while Active Duty Navy, I can honestly say we are headed for the perfect storm in Health Care.  All of the issues listed on this blog, Plus:</p>
<p>1) Such completely unrealistic patient expectation, that it borders on Fantastical(  Disclaimer: I think I may have made up this word&#8230;) i.e. ACOG&#8217;s endorsement of C/sec&#8217;s on  patient demand. Since when does the patient have the years of theory and experience of Fetal/Maternal Medicine to march in and demand a C/sec, because they are afraid of ruining their vagina? </p>
<p>2) The Aging, Obese, Sedentary life style and SAD ( Standard American Diet) causing 1/3 of our<br />
society to be obsese with  an enormous number of expensive Co Morbidities. </p>
<p>3) The over use of the limited health care resources used by the aforementioned group, what percentage of American&#8217;s would die without a week of their Meds, perhaps a 1/3, that&#8217;s pretty scary, especially when most of those disease states are life style preventable. </p>
<p>4) EMR as the answer, give me a break! I work at a large HMO in Southern Cal.  and we just went to 100% EMR, Inpatient and Outpatient, and I will admit it does help tremendously with certain aspects of Bedside care, i.e instant look up of patient&#8217;s entire Medical Hx, current labs etc, it also adds about 1 to 2 hours to every 8 hour  shift, in the shear volume of information, mostly useless regulatory charting requirments that you have to pick through to get what you are looking for, that it takes me 10  to 20 mins just to read all the notes, labs and etc to present the patient to my brain so I can telephone triage their complaint.  Now I have this time, I am a RN, but providers in the clinic who are double and triple booked into 20 min slots, Yeah ROB, doctors work 20 hours a week? According to my math it is more like a 60 to 80 hour work week,  depending on how many patient&#8217;s they see, which has to be A LOT b/o cr&#8212;y reimbursement, Would a great Hair Dresser charge anything less than $100 for a 20 min Hair Cut? Not where I live and how much education do they have? 1 year? But women pay this amount routinely. If you break down the hourly rate and thtow in overhead,  I can assure you they do not make a ton, with the exception of Orthopedic  and Plastic Surgeons.   Compared to my Attorney brother in law who works 60 hours a week, makes $250,000 per year plus a guranteed $100,000 yearly bonus, and he does not have to nightly worry about being sued, or that he forgot something in the daily INSANE multi tasking that has to be done to stay afloat.  AND I can guarantee it will not decrease Med errors.</p>
<p>5) Finally, this Economic crisis, which comes at the same time as  the Health Care Crisis, Education Crisis,  Food and Water shortages caused in part  by Climate Change, and  an exploding population,<br />
and WOW, I am going to make as much money as I can now, buy a VW van and a Yurt and hope for the best.    Thank You  to all my fellow Care Givers who routinely put the needs of our patient&#8217;s before our own.  I can&#8217;t count , the times are too numerous, how many times I have skipped lunch and breaks in a 12 hour shift and held my bladder for 10 or more hours, just to make sure that the 15 patient&#8217;s I was in charge of with just myself and a Corpsman, were medicated for their pain and calm and comfortable. How many other profession&#8217;s require this? </p>
<p>Sincerely,  A Frustrated Nurse, Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17343</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American medicine is a national embarassment. Now would be a good time to fix it.

As a doctor I can say I work hard, very hard, for nothing like the money I would be making if I had chosen law or business, or some other form of paper pushing, and with much higher stress. That is not a complaint - I chose this profession and every day I have the privilege of caring for people in a very real way, which just has got to be more fulfilling than selling widgets or just about anything else I can think of.  however, our system is broken and I would like to see it fixed. Here is what we need to do:

Create a single-payer system that provides care at a reasonable cost to EVERY PERSON in the U.S.

Make sure that no non-physician bureaucrat makes any more money than the lowest paid full-time primary care provider in the country.

Stop overpaying radiologists, dermatologists, and orthopaedic surgeons.

Cut out the miriad middle-men who skim off billions of dollars/year.

Stop paying pharmaceutical companies so much for drugs.

Stop spending so much on the last 3 months of people&#039;s lives - ration critial care services. Do away with the concept of actively having to make people DNR when over 60 - rather, people should have to opt in by signing PRM (please resuscitate me) papers and agree that their estate will pay the costs when the heroic measures don&#039;t work.

Take medical malpractice out of the hands of lawyers. Fix the tort system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American medicine is a national embarassment. Now would be a good time to fix it.</p>
<p>As a doctor I can say I work hard, very hard, for nothing like the money I would be making if I had chosen law or business, or some other form of paper pushing, and with much higher stress. That is not a complaint &#8211; I chose this profession and every day I have the privilege of caring for people in a very real way, which just has got to be more fulfilling than selling widgets or just about anything else I can think of.  however, our system is broken and I would like to see it fixed. Here is what we need to do:</p>
<p>Create a single-payer system that provides care at a reasonable cost to EVERY PERSON in the U.S.</p>
<p>Make sure that no non-physician bureaucrat makes any more money than the lowest paid full-time primary care provider in the country.</p>
<p>Stop overpaying radiologists, dermatologists, and orthopaedic surgeons.</p>
<p>Cut out the miriad middle-men who skim off billions of dollars/year.</p>
<p>Stop paying pharmaceutical companies so much for drugs.</p>
<p>Stop spending so much on the last 3 months of people&#8217;s lives &#8211; ration critial care services. Do away with the concept of actively having to make people DNR when over 60 &#8211; rather, people should have to opt in by signing PRM (please resuscitate me) papers and agree that their estate will pay the costs when the heroic measures don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Take medical malpractice out of the hands of lawyers. Fix the tort system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Rifkin, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Rifkin, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m concerned, the way to fix our health care system from the provider&#039;s side is the prompt return of the 80-20 Indemnity plan.  Most doctors and therapists are working for less pay than they did 25 years ago.  This is because we were all too naive to block managed care from taking over the health care system.  Practitioners have to work twice as hard for one-half the pay.  This needs to change.  The 80-20 Indemnity plan will have less expensive co-pays for the patients and practitioners can earn a better living.  The insurance companies will have to take the hit and this can be mitigated by stopping frivolous law suits against doctors and insurance companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the way to fix our health care system from the provider&#8217;s side is the prompt return of the 80-20 Indemnity plan.  Most doctors and therapists are working for less pay than they did 25 years ago.  This is because we were all too naive to block managed care from taking over the health care system.  Practitioners have to work twice as hard for one-half the pay.  This needs to change.  The 80-20 Indemnity plan will have less expensive co-pays for the patients and practitioners can earn a better living.  The insurance companies will have to take the hit and this can be mitigated by stopping frivolous law suits against doctors and insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Muller</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17281</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spoke with many medical professionals and one common worry that I have encountered is the hope that Mr. Obama does not cheapen the medical profession meaning that the reward for sacrificing to become a physician is not diminished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spoke with many medical professionals and one common worry that I have encountered is the hope that Mr. Obama does not cheapen the medical profession meaning that the reward for sacrificing to become a physician is not diminished.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Glover</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The survey was conducted by the Physican&#039;s Fouindation, created as the result of a lawsuit settlement with the insurance industry.  They sent out 320,000 surveys and got back only 12,000 responses or about 3.75% rate of return. With such scant data, no valid conclusions can be made - only political or pro-universal health propaganda headlines.  I am stunned that Fox News would repeat such tripe without even questioning its validity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The survey was conducted by the Physican&#8217;s Fouindation, created as the result of a lawsuit settlement with the insurance industry.  They sent out 320,000 surveys and got back only 12,000 responses or about 3.75% rate of return. With such scant data, no valid conclusions can be made &#8211; only political or pro-universal health propaganda headlines.  I am stunned that Fox News would repeat such tripe without even questioning its validity.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Mallak</title>
		<link>http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/18/will-obamas-healthcare-reform-make-doctors-happier/#comment-17279</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Mallak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare, like many industries can only have two of three desirable qualities. There is cost containment, quality, and access.  In this country we have quality and access at a high price.  Canada has quality and cost containment with limited access.  Even with the high cost, the rest of the world flocks to our shores for medical care. I don&#039;t know what the changes coming will bring, but if the government runs it with a  the American People will either have to accept lower quality of care or far less access. Either way, the lawyers will have a field day with the lawsuits that will result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare, like many industries can only have two of three desirable qualities. There is cost containment, quality, and access.  In this country we have quality and access at a high price.  Canada has quality and cost containment with limited access.  Even with the high cost, the rest of the world flocks to our shores for medical care. I don&#8217;t know what the changes coming will bring, but if the government runs it with a  the American People will either have to accept lower quality of care or far less access. Either way, the lawyers will have a field day with the lawsuits that will result.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama and Hillary have their way, this country&#039;s healthcare system would be like Canada&#039;s.  Canadian doctors work less, but they also make WAY less money.  Patients may have to wait months before seeing a doctor for thier ailment.  Some patients may be told that thier needs aren&#039;t prioity over another patients because doctors are only allowed to perform a certain amount of surgeries.  Imagine being told &quot;No, sorry.  Maybe we can perform your surgery next year.&quot;  If I lived in Canda, I wouldn&#039;t waste my time to become a doctor unless my intentions were to &quot;donate&quot; my expertise and I had a strong enough stomach to say &quot;no&quot; to those in need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama and Hillary have their way, this country&#8217;s healthcare system would be like Canada&#8217;s.  Canadian doctors work less, but they also make WAY less money.  Patients may have to wait months before seeing a doctor for thier ailment.  Some patients may be told that thier needs aren&#8217;t prioity over another patients because doctors are only allowed to perform a certain amount of surgeries.  Imagine being told &#8220;No, sorry.  Maybe we can perform your surgery next year.&#8221;  If I lived in Canda, I wouldn&#8217;t waste my time to become a doctor unless my intentions were to &#8220;donate&#8221; my expertise and I had a strong enough stomach to say &#8220;no&#8221; to those in need.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by GUILT BY ASSOCIATION (A NURSE AND A DOCTOR&#039;S WIFE):

Tonight, you go home to your family and retreat from the day’s worries. Your boss may have made your day intolerable or a colleague may have agitated you to no end; however, you’re able to remove yourself from your work environment and sink into that one thing that takes you away from the world which is your job.
For doctors, there’s no such removal from the day’s worries. Each and every day our hard working, dedicated physicians bring home with them the tribulations of what it means to be a caregiver. They bring home with them the single mother of three young children of whom they’ve had to inform has an incurable cancer and only has six months with which to spend the rest of her days. They bring home the HMO that tells them they can’t practice medicine as they deem necessary for the benefit of the patient because it does not fit the “protocol” some hoity, pencil pusher has come up with. They bring home with them the patient, who despite the physician’s best efforts to care for, looks the physician in the eye and and tells him he is going to sue him. They bring home with them a paycheck that is 40% of what their actual work load is worth.
Fox’s article leads with the title, “Doctors Sick of Work”. I beg your pardon, but doctors are not sick of work they are sick of the bureaucracy, the red tape, and those who would stand in the way of doctors doing what they do best…and that is being doctors (i.e. and caring for the sick and healthy alike).

One thing is correct about the article, physicians will seek other things to do with their time rather than be pushed around by those who know absolutely nothing about caring for and treating a patient.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Absolutely, right on point. I&#039;m not affiliated with the medical field, but I&#039;ve had enough work and life experience to say the government takes on too many things they know nothing about. As a grad student in accounting, I question their current efforts to bailout companies and proposed corporate and capital tax hikes. How can Congress and the Senate make decisions on a variety of topics without understanding the logic behind their decisions? Might as well flip a coin. They are the reason the medical field is fed up, but they won&#039;t admit it. The Bureaucracy is continually expanding and we are suffering. Doctors are hurting and we&#039;ll all feel the hurt when there&#039;s less willing to serve the public. It&#039;s looking like socialized medicine is not far off...God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by GUILT BY ASSOCIATION (A NURSE AND A DOCTOR&#8217;S WIFE):</p>
<p>Tonight, you go home to your family and retreat from the day’s worries. Your boss may have made your day intolerable or a colleague may have agitated you to no end; however, you’re able to remove yourself from your work environment and sink into that one thing that takes you away from the world which is your job.<br />
For doctors, there’s no such removal from the day’s worries. Each and every day our hard working, dedicated physicians bring home with them the tribulations of what it means to be a caregiver. They bring home with them the single mother of three young children of whom they’ve had to inform has an incurable cancer and only has six months with which to spend the rest of her days. They bring home the HMO that tells them they can’t practice medicine as they deem necessary for the benefit of the patient because it does not fit the “protocol” some hoity, pencil pusher has come up with. They bring home with them the patient, who despite the physician’s best efforts to care for, looks the physician in the eye and and tells him he is going to sue him. They bring home with them a paycheck that is 40% of what their actual work load is worth.<br />
Fox’s article leads with the title, “Doctors Sick of Work”. I beg your pardon, but doctors are not sick of work they are sick of the bureaucracy, the red tape, and those who would stand in the way of doctors doing what they do best…and that is being doctors (i.e. and caring for the sick and healthy alike).</p>
<p>One thing is correct about the article, physicians will seek other things to do with their time rather than be pushed around by those who know absolutely nothing about caring for and treating a patient.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Absolutely, right on point. I&#8217;m not affiliated with the medical field, but I&#8217;ve had enough work and life experience to say the government takes on too many things they know nothing about. As a grad student in accounting, I question their current efforts to bailout companies and proposed corporate and capital tax hikes. How can Congress and the Senate make decisions on a variety of topics without understanding the logic behind their decisions? Might as well flip a coin. They are the reason the medical field is fed up, but they won&#8217;t admit it. The Bureaucracy is continually expanding and we are suffering. Doctors are hurting and we&#8217;ll all feel the hurt when there&#8217;s less willing to serve the public. It&#8217;s looking like socialized medicine is not far off&#8230;God help us.</p>
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		<title>By: studentnurse</title>
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		<dc:creator>studentnurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with &quot;Doctor&#039;s Wife&quot;.  The life of a doctor is a hard one!  He/She has to provide such excellent patient care all the while walking on egg shells hoping they won&#039;t get sued.  People that don&#039;t know what a doctor&#039;s life and career is like need to stop talking about it.  You just make yourself look like a stupid socialist who wants the easy life with all the money.  Guess what!  Doesn&#039;t work that way!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with &#8220;Doctor&#8217;s Wife&#8221;.  The life of a doctor is a hard one!  He/She has to provide such excellent patient care all the while walking on egg shells hoping they won&#8217;t get sued.  People that don&#8217;t know what a doctor&#8217;s life and career is like need to stop talking about it.  You just make yourself look like a stupid socialist who wants the easy life with all the money.  Guess what!  Doesn&#8217;t work that way!!</p>
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