Shame on this woman and shame on the doctors that allowed this to happen. There is nothing cute or sweet about a woman having a litter of children, it is not a miracle, it is just people doing things without thought of who it might affect. Every child born who weights less than a 1000 gms gets a SSI check, then the parents want free diapers,formula, new van and then I need a bigger house, give me, give me. I can almost garantee that at least one of this children will have health problems at we the tax payers will have to shoulder for the rest of that child’s life. I have heard enough about these non-miracles!!!!

I only had triplets. My heart goes out to this woman, her husband, and all her family members, God Bless them on this wonderful road. I wish them all the happiness in the world and the best of health with the babies will surely give them this.

Any child borne is a blessing. It is life. However, I this woman was more than likely taking fertility drugs. Therein lies the problem. It’s risky. I understand it, but it’s risky for not only the babies, but the mother. How would anyone be able to support 8 newbornes who, in the best of situations should be breast-fed. Of course this will not happen, and of course as the other person mentioned, much of this will fall on taxpayers heads. However, that being said, I’d rather my tax dollars go to support a life, and soul, than for my taxpayer dollars to go to an abortion. God bless them, they are here.

This infertility craze is out of hand and there needs to be some medical guidelines. It is entirely unnatural; a woman’s body was not designed for litters like dogs and cats. Shame on doctors who are making money on infertile couples and allowing this to happen. This is a sideshow and close to a freakshow. Yes, they do not disclose the couple’s name because it outrages many. How does a couple afford 46 doctors and all the outrageous medical costs incurred for this? They don’t…..somebody else does. Maybe they will get a television series to pay for raising all these kids with all their medical problems and special needs.

With most Americans without medical insurance and the economy the way it is; the parents are not only selfish but guaranteed they will depend on others to support this horrendous decision. In a way, they are glorified with companies donating diapers and products and publicity and maybe even a television show. Many of these children of multiple births have many medical problems as a direct result of too many babies fighting for valuable nutrients from the mother.Yes, children are a blessing but adoption is a viable option. Doctors are responsible for this fad and they should only be allowed to place two eggs in vitro. This is what happens when couples are desperate and self-centered and think of no one but themselves!

I agree with Ann, this is self serving…

Ann, I totally agree with you!!!! Miracles are not manmade. Miracles are part of nature and there is nothing natural with giving birth to a litter when you are a woman.

Gee Ann, I agree with you…Next time you want to collect SSI or cheat someone at the office, I hope they remember you!

Wow Ann, you clearly can only see the negative of the blessing of life and to this family who probably struggled for years with infertility. Indeed, the parents and physicians know the risks associated with multiple pregnancies and the high likelihood of preterm delivery. There are certainly some individuals who look for handouts from both the government and private donors. Not everyone has designs on getting something for nothing. I hope that this new family does well and the babies stay healthy, as no family should suffer a loss regardless of what the circumstances are surrounding the pregnancy.

THE FIRST COMMENT IS EXTREMELY UNCALLED FOR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE NEW PARENTS OF THESE BEAUTIFUL MIRACLES. THE 1ST PERSON MUST NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE ABLE TO BE A PARENT. OR MAYBE THEIR PARENTS JUST DID A HORRIBLE JOB RAISING THEM.
BUT MOVING ON……. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THESE PARENTS, HOW TRULY BLESSED THEY ARE. I HOPE ALL GOES WELL WITH ALL OF YOUR LITTLE ONES. GOD BLESS YOU.

3. Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
4. As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
5. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them:
Psalms 127:3-5

The first comment was down right disgusting. The woman should be ashame of herself for her comments. The old rule of when you have nothing nice to say..stay quiet applies here! I live in Israel and when IVF is the procedure, the doctors only use four eggs at a time, freezing the others for another procedure. With fertility drugs, you just never know. Each fetus is a future child and another blessing.

I think that it is too a blessing to have birth a child into this world. Despite the many comments that people has made, im sure the couple were aware of the different complications that one must go through in order to bear eight children. Im a women that wants children. I’ve never been pregnant, and worry if I will be able to have them. As time progresses I to will seek help into having children. So what ever way she got pregnant, that’s her business. And another thing, whose to say she doenst have the money to afford her children. She must have something. Or im sure she would of never had that many. By the way, abortion might of never been a good thing to do. Cuz there are many dangerous factors that comes with that also.

I carried twins (conceived naturally) to 38 weeks and was SO uncomfortable. I am so in awe of this woman who was able to carry 4 times the children I had to 30 weeks. That doesn’t seem like a big deal but as a mother of multiples I see and hear everyday of the other mothers who struggle to carry their twins (let alone triplets and quads) to the viable 24 weeks mark. What strength she must have had to be able to physically carry the weight of 8 babies. All day long I have been saying “I just cannot imagine!” She should be congratulated and reveared for this feat alone. Way to go mom!! And congrats on your bundles of joy!!!!!!!!

yes i would like to say good bless you and the miracles that you have recieved its hard when you try to get pregnant you just would try anything to help you out your despriate to have a family not think do fertility could cause alot of children not even thinking of that just trying to make a family god bless you and your babys

First, I would like to tell the parents Congrats on their little bundles of joy…Babies are a very precious gift no matter how they got here. ANN…I think that you are a pig headed, selfish, rude person. What in life was so bad that you would talk so bad about an innocent baby? You should be ashamed of yourself. You owe this family an apology for acting like a two year old. I hate to see how your kids have turned out…Proably as mean and bitter as you.

Amen to that…

A*men to that…

God Bless this the children and hope none of babies have any health problems. God bless the parents, and heartiest congratulation to the mother and father.

I agree with Matthew, these babies are a miracle and the parents are very lucky. Ann should be ashamed of herself for all her negative comments. How does she know what financial situation these parents are in???? Also, no one except the people involved exactly know how these children were concieved and should keep their ignorance to themselves.
One point however, my parents did not do such a hot job raising my siblings(I am number 8 out of 9) and myself, but none of us have such a negative outlook on life. I would much rather my tax money go to pay for children than for all the abortions it has been funding for years.

Good luck to the parents and the 8 babies, enjoy every minute because the years go by way too fast….

Mother of 3(hopefuly more to come) and Grandmother of 1

I totally agree with Ann, I am a labor/delivery nurse and I have first hand knowlege of who pays for what when children are born. These parents will not pay one dime of the astounding cost. The other patients who enter the hospital and have insurance will be the ones to brunt the cost of someone elses poor decisions. Yes, children are a blessing, but if we were meant to have litters like cats and dogs god would have made us that way. And no 8 babies are not an act of god, but doctors playing god. I think the doctors should shoulder the cost along with the parents this would put a stop to all the nonsense.

God Bless this couple and their babies! Whether it was helped “by man” or not, it is a miracle still. And God Bless this precious mother who went through carrying these babies in her womb, in her body, and all of the sacrifice that happens in a regular pregnancy, non the less carrying eight babies. Shame on those on here, especially the 1st comment “Ann”, you dont know these people and what they want. How can you assume that is what they want–free hand outs pay for this for me, give me that? Obviously that is the kind of person you are and what you would want to assume that of others. I dont mind my tax dollars helping them out if thats what they need, atleast they had their babies and they will raise them. That is part of what is wrong with our society now anyway, treating life as if it has no value. I pray nothing but the best for them and their eight little ones.

If you do not believe in God, please do not take offense to my comment. I’m just stating my opinion. I first want to thank Dr. Manny for giving a very realistic outlook on medicine and how there is a definite beginning and end, but somehow people forget what happens in the middle. I also want to give my congrads to the new parents as well
I would have to say that I’m kind of in the middle of this situation. First of all, I totally agree Kate. Every child is a blessing, whether or not the pregnancy was planned or unplanned. I would be so happy to send my tax money to make sure children are taken care of over an abortion anyday. On the other hand, I do not agree with doctors, families and individuals deciding to take reproductive power into their own hands. I am a firm believer that God has a plan for everyone. Most women have a desire to give birth to their “own” children, but when they find out they are unable to, there is a definite sense of failure and loss. I myself, have not experienced this loss, but I cooperated in God’s creation on another level. I am a birth mother and I placed my son with a family in an open adoption. The parents were not able to conceive their own children (even with the assistance of IVF) and they realized that children were in their future, just in a different capacity. There are numerous children around the world that desperately need a home, and I wish couples would consider adoption over IVF. They are just born in your hearts!

As the mother of 3 children 18 months apart (twins and a single) I only wonder how these parents can nurture so many tiny ones. We had our hands full with just 3…I can’t imagine 8. But, best of luck to the family.

Mathew, You quote the Bible so I assume you are a Christian…It was NOT in God’s plan for man and woman to have litters or he/she would have designed us that way. God works with nature as he/she designed it! I agree with you on one point…children are a blessing…I have five…the natural way. God’s way!

Congratulations to the new parents. I can only pray that one day God would bless me like that. I am happy with my three but do pray for more. To selectively reduce or select which baby you murder is horrible. Abortion is never an answer and like the other poster I would much rather help to support these babies who were given life over funding abortions which not only murder a pre-born child but also leaves emotional and physical scars on the woman.

Yes, babies are a blessing. Yes, life is a miracle (for those of us who have faith) and must be protected at all costs. But let’s not forget that greed is not limited to money or power. The definition of ‘greed’ is “intense and selfish desire for something …” Make no mistake about it. Greed is a sin. And it is certainly not limited to money or power. For people of faith, we know and understand the concept of “God’s Will.” Acceptance of that will is truly a virtue and blessing. When we force an issue like the miracle of conception, we ignore God’s will. And often times it is at a tremendous cost, with dire consequences. While I have no doubt that these 8 babies will bring much joy to this couple, this was NOT God’s will. This was the irresponsible, reckless, selfish desire for a family, at ANY cost or consequence. What a shame, given the number of abandoned, unwanted and forgotten babies and children already present in the world.

When all of you have done the 24/7 of caring for a premature baby, who wasn’t ready and became brain-damaged due to lack of oxygen, couldn’t walk, talk, toilet train, do anything for hiimself, countless surgeries, suffering, then a slow horrible death the last of his 16 yrs of life. THEN, and only then can you criticize those who say this is wrong.

Would YOU enjoy needing someone to ‘manually’ remove your poop a few times a week?

Yes, it cost you all probably a million dollars for our son’s care, and we HAD private insurance, but it only covers some things. I did numerous procedures at home, instead of taking him in because it was so stressful and humliating for him.

We were a middle class working family. It caused a divorce, the siblings lives were severely altered due to the time contraints, and my body was torn up from all the lifting, stretching, and bending required, not to mention hardly any sleep for all those years. I and two children have PTSD, flashbacks of nightmare hospital stays out of town, ER trips, death-bed vigils and daily routine.

None of us remaining are ‘normal’, compared to who we were before all this happened. Sure, he was a joy, as he had high intelligence and a great smile, but no human or animal should ever EVER have to suffer all those years of his life.

With all due respect, I believe considering you are part of foxnews staff a more holistic and balanced depiction would be more appropriate. I also believe that would include summaries of a balanced nutrition/exercise approach and especially the difference between individuals who had followed such regeimes vs. a more “weighty” focus on the negatives that you have protrayed.

I think Ann is a very bitter woman and may not be a mom. I have known many women who have not had the chance to become moms because of medical problems and that is sad.
God blesses only those who he thinks can handle that many babies at a time and those who can handle the mentally challanged. God must think they are special and can handle this.

I have never commented on a story like this before, but I feel the need to defend the first comment made by Ann (& not just because we share the same name). I am currently going through fertility treatments, & I know from my experience that this woman having 8 babies was no “oops” situation. I have been taking fertility drugs for a few months now, & my Dr. monitors me very closely. I take the medication on specific days, & then have an ultrasound to see how many egg follicles are growing. If there were ever more than 4 he would recommend that we not try that cycle, because of the many problems associated with having that many babies at a time. So it’s obvious to me that the woman & her husband, and/or the their doctor were being very reckless, & that the woman and her husband were being very selfish. I know that sounds harsh, but based on what I have learned that is the truth. Those children will have health problems their entire life. I also wanted to comment on someone saying that Ann “probably doesn’t have children”. That is a very rude thing to say. I have had people who have no idea what I’m going through say things like that to me, and it made me very upset. Just because a person has not been blessed with children yet does not mean that they can’t look at a situation & form their own opinion..

Ann is not “bitter,” she is just realistic. Life is a miracle, but with life comes responsibility. We have freedom to choose, but we must take responsibility for our choices

We as a society and taxpayers should not have to shoulder the astronomical costs to satisfy the “need” to have one’s own biological children. How understandable, but selfish of these parents. We recognize the inalienable rights of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” in our constitution, but nothing in our constitution suggests that the taxpayers should shoulder the bill for everyone’s “pursuit of happiness.” I would like to see a discussion of the cost of caring for this family.

“Infants born at around 24 weeks’ gestation can frequently cost more than $500,000 and can exceed $1 million; said Jane Johnson, director of medical and managed care services for ING Reinsurance.” “”Most of our plans have $1 million to $2 million limits, so we don’t see women hitting those kinds of numbers’. However, they usually have some out-of-pocket costs and that can ‘be challenging for some families; she said.” (see http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-7362492/Baby-boom-what-financial-impact.html)

From these estimates, one can deduce that the octuplets “cost” 4 to 8 MILLION dollars!

Please don’t try to tell me that there are many families who can afford this on their own.

Our discussion as responsible members of society should be about whether this is a reasonable allocation of our limited resources.

There are many parents today that have difficulty with one child and some of these children end up in terrible situations. Is that also Gods will? I assume he does not bless the terribly disfunctional families.

Nothing has been said about the Father of these 8. How does he feel about this new huge responsibility.

Fertility drugs used for the purpose of multible births is unnatural and is for a selfish reason. Fertility drugs to help a childless couple having problems in conceiving is certainly a legitimate reason for trying this possible solution.

Ok I’ve pretty much read everyones comments, wow !! And I tend to find myself in the middle of both views. In no way did go ever invent a woman to carry 8 babies, if he did then we would naturally be able to. I tend to follow the belief that he gives us as many as we can physically carry and care for. I am not saying I do not believe there are women that need help, cuz there are. But doctors need to have their limit!!If they are able to retrieve alot of eggs then freeze them for later procedures if some dont work. Place 1,2,3 I’d say max of 4 in at once. But once you go over 4 then its just not natural. Its not fair to the womans body, its not fair to the babies involved. Now who pays for all this, the medical teams for now and bills later on, can these parents take care of these children soley by themselves. probably not, which means help.
I am a mother of 2 small girls, which are 2yrs apart. Sure i never ran into trouble where i needed fertility help..but i made it very very very clear to my family/friends/husband that if i ever did i would do whats best all around. Whats best for me, whats best for the babies, our wallets later on and so on. You have to look at the bigger picture when you get youself going this direction.
I do give this mom praise for going to 30+ wks with these babies. I just wish/hope the family thought this all out before they went this far.
But no matter what my real view is…the doctors allowed this to get their name recognized,as well as the family

I don’t think my first comment worked, so I’m going to try again and hope that it doesn’t show up twice. I feel the need to defend Ann and her comment. I have been going through fertility treatments for the past 3 months, and based on my experiences, I can tell you that this woman having 8 babies was no “oops”. I take fertility drugs on specific days, and then my Dr. follows up with an ultrasound to see how many eggs are ready to be released. If there were ever to be more than 4, he would recommend that we not try that cycle, because of all of the problems associated with having that many babies at a time. So it’s obvious to me that the Dr. and/or the parents in this case were being very reckless, and the parents themselves were very selfish. This may sound harsh to some, but based on what I know it’s just the truth. And for someone to say that Ann herself “must not be a Mom” is very rude. People have made similar comments to me not knowing my situation, and it is very hurtful. Just because someone hasn’t been blessed with children does not mean that they are unable to assess a situation and form their own opinion on it.

I do not understand why we debate abortion and celebrate multiple births produced by fertility treatments. Both procedures are against nature. At a minimum, there should be medical guidelines limiting implantation to one fetus at a time… and the pricing for fertility treatment should be designed to encourage multiple tries, not multiple implants. If a couple is unable to conceive or carry to term, they should consider adoption because there are many beautiful children who need to find a forever home.

Please go to the March of Dimes website and look and the brain of a fetus at 30 weeks
and then the brain of an infant born at 38 weeks. Wish them lots of luck and I send my
prayers. I heard that she has many other children. And that she is not married. This
should not matter, but if she is, she was being a little selfish. I pray her other children
are blessed with lots of love, too.

I’m so saddened by some of these comments. First of all, unless you’ve had fertility problems, you have NO idea what it’s like. It so very hard…..I myself have had 2 miscarriages, so to all of you that are being so hard on this couple shame on you. EVERY child is knitted together in their mother’s womb by God and the birth of ANY child is a miracle. Please before you judge this couple attempt to put yourself in their shoes.

I totally agree with Ann and Madchen. We all know who will be supporting this litter, and that is what it is, a litter. It is disgusting. Shame on this woman and shame on the medical community who made it possible…..

Ann and Susan,
Just letting you know, there will always be those who do not agree with us rational and intelligent people; those who choose to interpret God’s will and who say they are willing to use their tax dollars for these so-called blessings….I say send your portion to the hospital immediately…and back those words with your hard earned dollars. Many are being harsh to Ann and they are neither fair nor nice people. Everyone is entitled to their opinion without insults. This is a common-sense discussion dealing with real facts folks. This is not God’s will….but another one of man’s interventions….next will be cloning……then you will see how unnatural this has all become.
Maybe we should be looking at why humans are losing their ability to reproduce…..maybe that too is God’s plan… to not bring children into a world unfit for human life….who knows? We are not God and should stop playing as such is all I am saying here!

My thoughts and prayers are with this family. I hope the mother and children are well, and they are all able to go home soon.

I hope the reason the family has not been identified, is because they just want privacy.

I cannot help but think about that family on TLC with the 8 kids. They have truly exploited their children, and as a result, they are both stay at home parents, and recently moved into a $1.4 million dollar house, and will never have to worry about money again.

How many parents would like to be able to be able to spend more time with their children, and live in a really nice house, and never have to worry about money again.

All the TLC family did was have fertility treatments and now they are rich.

This whole thing is sick. Women are not meant to drop litters. it is unhealthy for them as well as the children. These situations do not happen by accident and those responsible were obviously just looking for attention. Every time some couple risk a woman’s life to drop a litter they end up with a new house, van, supplies, money and even tv shows. We glorify this idiocy in our society and ignore the doctors who have been trying to stop this for years. My wife and I have one amazing child after 10 years of marriage. I would be just as happy if we had 10 or none, but I would never allow her to endanger herself just for the sake of producing children. Either it happens or it doesn’t. Accept it, move on, adopt or don’t, but stop this insanity. This is not cute or worthy of accolades. This has nothing to do with religion or morals or lack thereof, this has to do with basic common sense and respect for oneself and one’s spouse.

It is God’s miracle that all the babies & mother is fine by the grace of almighty. I wish very best to the family and have a wonderful life ahead.

May God keep your babies healthy and wealthy.

Take care.

THERE’SJUST NOT ENOUGH HOURS IN ONE DAY TO TAKE CARE OF *8* BABIES.
THIS IS NOT NORMAL , THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTATION OF BEHALF OF THE DOCTORS WITH THEIR
FERTILITY DRUGS AND THIS IS NOT OF GOD, BUT OF MAN.
A WOMAN’S BODY WAS NOT CREATED TO CARRY *8* HUMAN BEINGS, *GOD* MADE US WOMAN -
NOT CAT NOT DOG AND CERTAINLY NOT TO HAVE A LITTER LIKE FOUR LEGGED ANIMALS.
WHAT NEXT??
OH! I KNOW THE NEXT WOMAN WILL HAVE *10* BABIES……

This woman hass 6 other children-so she did not ’suffer’ infertility.They live in a 2 bedroom house with her parents. News says they are Nigerian-are they US citizens? Do they have medical ins?
I am so mad if they dump the cost if this ‘experiment’ on those of us who work hard – and struggle to make it.we sit & decide if we can afford a Dr visit when we need it but we are not sure if we can afford it or pay the mortage. This is somethign that they need to keep to themselves & PAY FOR themselves. It shoudl e in the news for ‘what not to do’ and ‘How terribly wrong fertility treatments can go’

Ok first off my favorite show on t.v right now is Jon and Kate plus eight. For you people who have a problem with woman having “litters” of children as you call it those kids on that show are some of the most well mannered children and one of the most organized famliles I have ever seen in my life. They don’t have the government handing them everything. It’s these sorry people that dont work that pop out kids on after another and then take their kids checks that are paid out of our tax dollars and spend the money on drugs that you need to be fussing about. How dare you say that these mothers should not have these kids this way. GOD plans everything he knows everything before we even think it,it was his will for these babies to be born and have life here on Earth. You all just make me so mad if you are not fussing about women aborting babies you are fussing about them having to many. Please find something else to complain about. Those of you who complain must not be happy with you on life or you wouldnt have to be fussing about somebody else’s. Congrats to this familys may you be blessed in many ways.

Now it comes out that the Mother has six other children and lives with her parents; no mention of the Father. If the Doctors did any form of fertility treatments on this woman their liscenses should pulled. The children are not a miracle from God; they came from medical science. It’s a miracle that they are doing as well as they are, lets hope it stays that way. If there is insurance it will or has probably already capped out; then it will be the taxpayers burden. How selfish can this family be! Was this a ploy to get a new house, car, tv show etc.

My prayers are with the mother. WOW 8 babies
I am a blessed mom of a 3year little girl that was conceived with use of fertility drugs. I had tried for 4 years we had lost all hope and tried adoption like so many has suggested for us with fertility issues there are 3 or more year waits. The last year tried ferilty in July we were blessed with a baby and 9 months later a precious baby girl. I remember we found out they said if you have multiplies you have the right to termeniate 1 or more but after you have blessed with a life how could you choose to do such a terrible thing. That’s not the Christian thing to do. i was fortunate I had only one. After 6months I was pregant again unfortunatly that ended in misscarriage. I do not think of these women as being selfish and I think it is sad that people beleive these children are not a blessing if it was not God’s will they would not be here. They would be with him. And for you to say the government (all of us) would support these babies my goodness we already support children every day on welfare. A life is precious.

Congratulations to the parents of these octuplets. I have a set of twins(naturally). What I do not understand is why doctors would even implant more then two -three eggs (if invitro). This world is mad. I know what it feels like to want to have children desperately( most woman do) but to jeopardize your self and your babies by allowing so many eggs to be placed in the womb is neglectful. Everyone wants the attention or be a ” medical” miracle but those miracles come with big costs. I would like to think a doctor’s oath would be put o the line for allowing such high risk births. These babies of course are blessings but those little blessings are fighting to stay alive for the next 3-4 months. I think people feel that is okay but you can not breastfeed and nurture 8 children but instead the nurses and doctors are their parents for those months. It is very rare to have Quads, Quints etc naturally. Too many doctors are unethical and will do basically anything an “infertile patient wants. I would not be surprised if one day people that are fertiule but want three or four babies in one shot will be lined up at the Fertility clinic. It is sad. It is not the babies fault but the parents and doctors unwise choice to allow such a risk. I hope these parents cherish these babies. The population has already had an outpour of donations for these babies. Wow.. If the parents wanted these babies they should have to figure that out for them selves. Sorry, but it is true…

well,i think some of u are hard on annie.she has a right to her feelings.maybe a little bold but at the same time true.8 kids are a lot on any family whether u have the money or not.and she will get lots of goodies for her efforts.and she should whether she needs it or not.medically that was dangerous,so reward her for being bold.some may think that was stupid.but all the babies were healthy.and we will be paying for her,so what,we pay for a lot of peoples booboos that should not receive money.any women brave enough to have 8 babies have my hats off to her.she will be going thru a lot,believe that,having 8 crying babies,then 8 teenager.trust me,one day shes gonna see what she has and wish she had one at a time.but i do hope her and her babies stay healthy and they grow up to be something special.GOD bless the mother that had 8 babies.she gonna need all the help she can.and more importantly,i hope she got her tubs tied cause she doesnt need to get pregnant again.LORD knows how many she will have next.heck,she makes me wanna send her a little something something.

lady p of ga

i do feel the dr that did that should have his head examine.but the bottom line is,she had 8 kids,they are all ok so far,she seems to be doing fine.yes that was a dangerous move,but such is life.maybe she and the dr was trying to get into the book of records,i guess both of them have issues,.but when u r desperate,people do desperate things.cause surely no women in her right mind wants 8 kids at one time.sometime we have to be careful for what we ask for. i wish the mother and father much success on there journey to raised the kids

We do not know the details of this case and some folks are judging this woman and her doctors harshly based on complete conjecture.

Women who have been through fertility treatments know that IF this woman had IVF, no sane doctor placed 8 eggs in her womb. Most doctors will do AT MOST 4, knowing that most often only one or two will actually make it. The quints and more usually happen when those implanted eggs split afterwards, sometimes more than once.

It’s also possible that she was taking drugs to increase ovulation, and IVF was not done at all. In this case, multiple eggs were fertilized and probably some or all split into twins. Yes, the parents and the doctors could have decided to “selectively reduce” the number of fetuses to increase the chances for the others, but remember that it is the mother’s cherished right to CHOOSE whether to do this or NOT.

Congrats to the family on their wonderful, healthy little babies.

Now it comes out in the news today, this woman is young and already has six children and lives with her parents with no mention of a father for these kids. This story continues to get more outrageous. Rumors are she is from Nigeria and there are even questions as to her legal citizenship. So for all those who have blogged about this poor woman just wanted to have a child at any cost and bless those who can’t bear children on their own without fertility treatments……please…..this woman already had “6″ kids, which is plenty by any standards to support. She lives with her parents….who wants to guess if she is receiving state assistance to take care of all these kids…..come on….the more kids….the bigger the check!!!
If she was independently wealthy and talking care of this kids on her own….bravo…….then why would she be living in a small 2-bedroom house with 6 kids and her parents??….count them….thats nine people in a two bedroom……….now lets add 8 more …….thats right seventeen……come on!! I would almost bet on this one….that the state of California who is already struggling economically is paying for all this and supporting her children and her and her parents. Welcome to America!!!

As the doctor has said, proceeding with a high order pregnancy is playing Russian roulette.

How, exactly, does that qualify as anything but irresponsible?!

We don’t congratulate women who use recreational drugs during pregnancy just because the baby was born alive, do we? No, we recognize that no matter the outcome of the pregnancy, no pregnant woman has the right to commit a reckless act against her pregnancy.

If these children all remain alive and without physical and mental disability (which won’t be known for years), it will have been miraculous.

Shame on this mother. There are ways to completely avoid high order multiple pregnancies. If you’re morally incapable of selective reduction, then the right thing to do morally and ethically is to refuse artificial insemination (which can result in a high order multiple pregnancy) and restrict yourself to IVF.

How awful of her to risk the lives and futures of her children!

I have 9 yr old Quadruplets. Dr. Manny delivered them. What an amazing OB doctor he is. He knew exactly how to get me and my babies to the 30 wk mark. My miracle worker. They spent a few weeks in the NICU, but went home at 4 1/2 lbs each. They are all now healthy and outgoing. They are in 4th grade, they enjoy rock climbing, dance classes, ride horses, are in cubscouts and brownies, they ride bikes, ice skate, roller skate, sleigh ride, swim, they laugh and giggle, they tell jokes, do magic tricks, love to sing…you name it, they’re all wonderful outgoing kids. They are all very smart, with very intellectual brains…received A’s and B’s on their report cards in December. I feel that God did play a major role in the conception of our children. If it weren’t for God giving the doctors the gift of figuring out how to make IVF and fertility treatments work, then many of us Moms today wouldn’t have our wonderful children. Good luck to the new family!

Godbless you with all your little ones I am so proud of you that you were able to go through that. That is alot to go through in one day. I am happy for you. Goodluck with all your little angels

What this women is not telling you is that she is a SINGLE mom that already has SIX CHILDREN at home and that she lives with her parents. If this is the truth then we should find out why any doctor would help her get pregnant again. I hope that DCF is on their toes and checks this out and then removes ALL the children from her before she has a chance to exploit them for money.

I give all the praise to God because those 8 babies are precious gifts from God. I will pray for the parents of those 8 babies that God give them strenght and also that God will allow these babies to grow up to be strong and healthy.God said in his word that we should multiply. This lady couldn’t have carried those babies if it wasn’t in God’s will. So on that token it was all in God’s plans from the day this mother of 8 babies were even born. Again I give God the praise for these 8 little precious babies.

Did you know that according to Reuters, (http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE50S6P020090129) she also has 6 MORE children at home? Home being where she lives with her mother. I agree that these children are blessings from God, but God didn’t invent fertility drugs. I don’t know the pain of not being able to conceive as I have 3 children of my own. If indeed you have to turn to fertility drugs, just because you CAN have multiple babies, doesn’t mean you SHOULD. With being a parent also comes responsibility. This shows complete lack of responsibility. When will those other 6 children have time with their mom? She’ll have donation after book deal after tv show, etc, but those kids are going to have to divide their time, which is undoubtedly already spread thin, to sharing it with 8 more siblings. Brilliant idea on this mother’s part, just brilliant.

THIS WOMAN MAKES ME SICK. SHE ALREADY HAS 6, SIX, KIDS. HOW PATHETIC SHE IS. SHE SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR USING UP TAX PAYERS MONEY TO FEEL HER WELFARE SYSTEM.

Ann, Susan, Madchen and a few others all claim to have some sort of insight into what God’s will is. My question to all them is how do you know what God’s will is. Do they have some special connection or insight that they would like to share with the rest of us mere mortals. If they do, then I would also like to partake of that relationship. Most likely is that are just assuming they know what God wants, NOT KNOWING. Maybe God was working through the doctors to bring these 8 miracle babies into this world. Is it not beyond God’s power to work through humans. I think not! Prove me wrong! Why can’t these arrogant pigheaded people just be happy for the family, wish them the best, and stop trying to shame them with their secular-progressive views. I would gladly pay a few pennies more in taxes to ensure these miracle babies and others like them are properly taken care of.

This is not a miracle. it is ridiculous for a women to have a litter of babies. it is not god’s plan it is the selfish plan of the family. who by the way has 6 other kids. My question is who was the fertility docter who implanted all these embryos in a women who already has 6 other children. nobody in this day and age with the economy can support 14 kids. So yes the taxpayers shoulder this burden. I am a nicu nurse ( and a twin and former 29 weeker) who has seen the developmental problems that some of these babies may have. It is not smart medicine to practice and the docter should be ashamed of himself. I am glad the mother is doing ok and tyhe babies seem healthy but this is not always the case. shame shame shame…..

Ann, Susan, Madchen and some other bloggers on this site all strike me as arrogant, judgemental and mean-spirited types of people who claim to have special insight into God’s will. How do they know what God’s will is? If they have some special power, knowledge, or communication with God, I think the rest of us mere mortals would also to partake of that, please share that with us ladies. The obvious scenario is they ASSUME to know what God’s will is, NOT KNOW what it is. Is it not possible that God was working through the doctors to bring these 8 miracles into this world. I think an all powerful God would have that power and he chose to use it in this instance. I am not stating this opinion as gospel because nobody knows for sure what God’s will is. If these ladies were true believers in God they would worry less about the speck in other people’s eyes and worry more about getting rid of the log in their own eyes. (Matthew Chap 7). Why can’t they just be happy for the family and wish them the best instead of condeming them. Last but not least I would gladly pay a few more pennies in taxes to ensure the well being of the babies than pay 1 cent for legalized murder of unborn human beings.

My question is, who was her idiot fertility specialist because apparently he or she was negligible in the proper procedures for fertility treatments. Either that or he/she was knowledge deficited. Any intelligent fertility specialist would only have implanted three to four embryos not as many as this woman apparently got. Or if she was on fertility drugs, the doctor would have told her to refrain from having intercourse because she had put out too many eggs. I am appalled and say a shame on you to the fertility doctor involved. Poorly done mate..poorly done.

As an aside, this woman already has six children. Why did she need fertility treatments in the first place?

All I can say about this and other super mulitple births is if I were you I would find me another doctor. A doctor who actually knew what he or she was doing.

This SINGLE WOMAN already has 6 other kids. Her father is serving in Iraq to help support the 6 children she already has. She is NOT MARRIED, and obviously has not suffered years of infertility like eveyone thinks. SHE HAS 6 KIDS, now she has 14. She lives in a small 3 bedroom home with her mom and dad..how responsible is that for a 30 something woman. These babies are low birth weight which means the mother will collect SSI for each child.

I am a infertile woman, 38 years old and married. My husband and I stopped 2 rounds of Clomid(fertility pills) and the next thing was invitro. We did not want the risk of too many eggs fertilized. So, we stopped. We will be adopting 2 children from the state this year. It is a long process. The background checks, Cpr/AED training, testing my water at the house, fingerprinting, classes, ect….

I wonder if this woman is already on welfare? Can you even imagine the tax deductions, the welfare payments and food stamps for 14 kids? Where are the fathers?

So, a woman with six kids between the ages of 2 and 7 needs fertility treatments? That is medical incompetence. Fertility treatments were intended for women who have difficulty conceiving, which obviously she does not. Even if her others were conceived this way, anyone who has had six children should no longer be a candidate for these extremely expensive procedures. I just love how her mother is on now implying how hard it will be and how her husband has might have to go soon. Boo hoo. She is started the pity fest already. This is a prelude to the gimme, gimme, gimme act that will begin soon enough. These doctors should be held accountable for this idiocy. In no way should this woman have been a candidate for fertility treatments. Sick.

There’s nothing natuaral about having 8 babies. You should have to prove you are financially capable of raising 8 (in this case 14) kids, before something like this is allowed.

The real news story here should be about the fact that the mother already has 6 kids and live with her parents.

For those of you who believe in God, Jehovah, Allah or other supreme being, I am surprised that you believe that this was “God’s will”. While I think this is amazing and I do hope the parents are able to raise these children, this was just a simple case of man trying to play God. If one believes in doing “God’s will”, shouldn’t part of that be the acceptance of the inability to conceive? I realize that being a man I can’t understand a woman’s instinct to have children. That being said we live in a world that is quickly becoming over populated. More and more women and men are being found unable to conceive. This is Nature’s way of telling us to reduce our numbers. Fertility treatments ought to be outlawed. Women, men or couples that are unable to conceive ought to be offered counseling to deal with their situation rather than drugs, treatments or procedures to alter what Nature and God have decided and learn to be grateful for what they do have.

The vagina is not a clown car…

This woman already had 6 children and her husband is set to leave for Iraq. How responsible is it to put yourself in that situation? So now she has a litter of 8 infants to take care of and 6 other children ranging in ages of 2-7 years old.

New Flash to everyone claiming what a beautiful miracle this is. Didn’t you read the full story?She is not married, and lives with her parents! Not only do her poor parents have to help her support the six at home, now they have 14 children to support with no father. Which means we will all be supporting her and her 14 children. If she were a minority woman you all would have steam coming out of your ears ready to crucify her but since she is white, I guess it is okay for her to have 14 children without being married and using all of the welfare that she can get her hand on! And to “Madchen” NO, she is not Nigerian!!! It would just make you feel better about bashing her if she were black!

It sounds like this patient is not married and living with her parents, that concerns me. Look at all the other high profile mult births; they are all getting some assistance, whether it is private donations or off of the government. Everything you read is talking about this GREAT MIRACLE! I am sorry but this is no miracle! When you “implant” fertilized embryos and then “shoot up” on fertility drugs; you have taken God out of the equation! Without His divine assistance, there is no miracle. I wish them all the best, but this is getting to be rediculous! When someone is unable to have children, there is a reason for it. Medicine needs to stop intervening. We have even had a “woman” that had a sex change to become a “man” give birth. How much more out of control is this freak show going to get?

I would like to know if she is on welfare and why in the world did a doctor give her fertility treatments when she already has 6 kids and is single. I guess we will be supporting her, huh? It is not right to go for fertility treatments when you don’t need them.

Shame shame on the doctors who allowed this to happen. Welfare is going to pay high. She did not need fertility treatments. She already had 6 kids to support. A single parent, probably multiple dads with the other 6 kids.

What was this woman thinking??? She already is only 30-ish, has 6 other children, is living with her parents, and from what I understand is single. How in the world is she supporting these children? Oh, guess she is not – but mom and dad are and they don’t seem any too bright either. Seems like they encouraged the daughter.

Why did a woman with 6 children take fertility medicine and have embryos implanted seem shocked to have 8 more. 14 children is nuts. I don’t know what the objective is here but why is she doing this?

I hear there is no dad in the picture and she lives with her parents. As I also understand she can’t breast feed all of them and is reliant on donated milk. This is just a mess. A woman with 6 kids didn’t need another embryo when so many others are in need. Nothing is right in this picture.

Okay let’s try this again!

I have a hard time with this issue! All I am hearing is how Great this Miracle is. The patient is “very young”, apparently single as there is no mention of a “husband”, and living with her parents and SIX other Children! As dysfunctional as America is becoming, I know many reading her article will see NOTHING WRONG with it! So my point is this: when you have multiple embryos “implanted”, and then “shoot up” on fertility drugs, it is not a miracle, but a medical intervention! She already had six kids; and it may be safe to assume that drugs were used with them as well. When you take God out of the equation there is NO MIRACLE. We have seen the medical profession change men into women, and vice versa. We have seen a woman changed into a man give birth. What can we expect next from this freak show?

Well, after this fiasco, I would like to recommend the following:

1.Remove all 14 children and place them for adoption. The “parents” (breeders) are obviously not qualified to be parents. Society should not be burdened with such. As they will not be able to support this litter, they should be taken away.

2. Every penny associated with the care of these children should be paid by the parents and their doctors, not society. “If you play, you have to pay.”

3. The Doctors who gave fertility treatments to a woman with 6 children should lose their licences.

Well this story can’t get much worse. Shame on the Grandparents, the mother and the Doctor. Oviously the mother can’t take care of the children she already has by herself and now she has decided to add 8 more. Talk about greedy and selfish. The doctor should be held financially responsible. Once again people have taken control away from God and tried to do the job themselves and have failed. How much attention do you really think these children will get. Where is the father? It sound to me like this mother is too young and not educated enough having much such a irresponsible decision. Everyone is acting like this is just the greatest blessing for a family. The mother was already “blessed” with 6 children and the fact that she is living with her parents tells me she can’t afford to take care of herself let alone all her children. I hope everyone realizes the burden put on everyone else for a “childs” decision. If they are not on govt. assistance I would love to see proof. I am sure that is why the mother is keepiing her identity secret. I hope she will not be allowed to have anymore children by artificial means. If she wants more let her have them one at a time. I would also loved to know if the Grandparents paid for the fertilization procedure. This is one of the reasons why the economy is in the mess it is. Why don’t they start paying for plastic surgery too while there at it? I am sure that will be next on the order of business for the “young” mother.

A good fertility clinic only has to implant 1-2 embryos, but never is it ethical for doctors to place more than 3. Shame on Kaiser for doing this. Shame on those “smiling doctors” for stooping to such a low and then being pleased with themselves.
My heart goes out to the mother and ALL her children who will have to suffer through this long after the media hype is gone. She probably was never fully advised of what was going on and then the thought of killing ones own babies would be reprehensible once she found out that she had so many. Its not her fault. Its completely the fault of the self serving doctors and Kaiser Permanente.

I will not pass judgement on this mother. However, did you all know that she already had 6 children when she got fertility treatments? These embryos were planted. Why would any doctor plant 8 or more embryos to force a woman to decide on aborting some? Shouldn’t there be a safer limit on the number of embryos implanted? I know some don’t survive. I am curious to know why a woman who already birthed 6 children would need fertility treatments too, but it’s really none of our business.

I’m wondering why a woman with 6 children would need fertility treatments? None of my business though really.

Blessings from God.

I believe that all children are miracles. How can anyone say that these children making it is not a blessing from God? That said, I do fear the ability of this woman to care for 14 children, it can be very tough to give each child the attention and love that they need, I know this not because I have multiples, but because I have taught in several elementary classrooms, and this is what she has on her hands, a classroom full of children, and I really hope she is a good teacher. No matter how many children she has already, I refuse to judge her for her reasons for using fertility treatments. I understand the desire to have a child, and how frusterating it can be to not be able to do it on your own. We don’t even know what really happened, why are we judging her when we don’t even know if she gave permission to have that many put in her body. I have heard elsewhere that this was a goof up and there is also the chance that some of the eggs split. What I am astounded by is that she was willing to carry all 8 babies, she had to be so scared, but she wouldn’t reduce the number of babies in her belly, and I don’t think she did this because she wanted attention or money, it was truly against her morals. I am sure this woman will cherish each child. I would rather have my tax dollars go to her then the big companies who are still giving multimillion dollar bonuses post bailout. Lets wait to meet her and find out the whole situation before we judge!

I am 40 years old and i did’t have chanse to have a baby ,and i dont have any .I whantet to have one but the doctors say you need a donor , so I coldnt oforted . I’m desprete why .Good bles her.
Congratulation.

I they are broke, and had a bankrupcy, how did they afford intravinus, implantation, this is a very expensive procedure, in the 10’s of thousands of dollars.

i think that was stupid of that lady to have 8 babies,first she already have 6 babies.its her,her husband,her mom,her dad and her 6 kids,now all of them live in a 2bedroom apt,so now u add 8 more kids to a 2 bedroom apt,she alt to be ashame of herself for doing that.thats 18 people living in a 2 bedroom apt,that is a fire hazzard.and it should be against the law to have 18 people living in a 2 bedroom apt.there was no reason for her to have 8 more babies other than to try to get money to take care of her and her family.i think she should not receive anything.oviouly she cant afford the 6 kids she have or she would be living in a bigger place.i truly thing that something is mentally wrong with her and her husband.how stupid is that,social services and a shrink needs to pay her a visit.not to mention JESUS

LADY P OF GA

I agree any and every child born is a blessing. This woman already had six children! She lives with her parents, obviously because she needs help raising all of her children. I can not believe that a doctor would give her fertility treatments to have more children. I totally understand her not wanting to abort any of the babies, but she should never have been put in that position. I just wonder why six children were not enough for her. The fertility doctor/clinic should be the one to pay for this woman’s children. I would definitely not watch a tv documentary on this family, because they seem so irresponsible. I am also wondering where the father of the children is? Fertility clinics and doctors need stricter regulations on who they treat. Is the mother of the babies Nadya Suleman (33years old)? And her parents Ed and Angela Suleman?

I am stunned that there is so much positive news about this octuplet delivery and not so much attention placed on the obvious irresponsibility of this fertility doctor. I can’t believe this woman with six other children would be implanted with eight fertilized eggs by any physician licensed in this specialty – it is medical malpractice. It is time that we look at the ethical issue and hold these doctors accountable for putting women in a position of chosing to selectively reduce or give birth to a litter.

I am just wondering where this woman is from and who the father is. There has to be a man involved somewhere. Where did she have these embryos implanted and who was the doctor responsible. The whole ordeal sounds to suspicious to me. I’m betting either she or the man involved isn’t from this country and having children in America makes them American. Now America has to pay or should I say as poor Californians we now have to pay. She already had six children, were they natural? or did she require fertility treatments for the first 6?, why would anyone attempt multiple births after they already have several.
As a tax payer living in California I want to know! This has nothing to due with religious beliefs at this point, but there is something sacrilegious about this.
It is just WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! plan and simple………………

I think this is rediculous, who in their right mind would implant this individual with more babies. 6 and already on welfare, where did they get the money for the invitro, because im sure that costs money. Why is it that im 26 years old middle class, working my butt off to pay for college, which i will be paying off loans for ever im sure, when she gets to live off the government and continue making babies. If i wanted i could have a child to get my school paid for and get a check every month, but im being responsible and reasonable. I just dont understand, there should be a cut off as to how many children you can get welfare for, and if you choose to have more then well i geuss your out of luck. We talk about schools getting overcrowded teh economy isnt great right now, having kids is not going to solve this problem. I also am aware that its not the childs fault that they have that siuation, but maybe if people realize they cant take advantage of the system it wouldnt be such a problem, 18 year olds with 4 kids already. I know some people really do need the help and do all they can, but others compleletly take advantage of it, and its fustrating to look at when im working so hard, and im still going to have a crazy amount of bills to pay for just to go to college to get a better education so i wont have to struggle when i have kids.
Emily

This represents the height of ignorance and irresponsibilty. The mother and her parents – all on welfare; the father yet to be named and probably on his way out of the country and out of the picture. Who will pay for the rearing of these children? People like me who work every day, pay taxes, make thoughtful decisions and contribute to my community to improve the quality of life for my family and the world around me. In my opinion, these children need to put in foster care where they can receive adequate attention. This mother only had these children to pull down more money from welfare. She is selfish, ignorant, immoral and irresponsible.

I understand where people are saying that children are a blessing, i agree to that, and one day i would love to have children. But you have to take the bigger picture in to consideration, she already had 6 children under the age of 8, 2 being 2 year old twins. Was it really necessary to get invitro, which is not natural, and should be used for people who want children and cant concieve natrally, not for people who already have 6 children. As much as children are wonderful they do cost money, and the cost of 14 children isnt cheap. I agree with Ann and i do not think she is an unhappy individual. I think she is looking at the reality of the matter.

Babies are always a gift from God.Don’t be judgemental of a person you know nothing about.Prehaps her other children are adopted and she wanted to have a child as well or prehaps not.I doubt she set out to get pregnant with eight.It’s really no one else business.She was with her parents I imagine to help care for her and her children while pregnant.Her father said she had a big home else where.As for SSI and Welfare if she can afford fertilitly treatments I doubt she is on either of those.If her babies get SSI oh well why not ;we don’t seem to have much trouble giving money to fat cats on Wall Street so they can live like Kings.I’d rather my tax dollars feed children here in America than the over paid CEO’s.

I am amazed that all these people would rather this woman get tax dollars to raise kids than see their tax dollars go to—-abortion, big companies, etc. etc. etc. Don’t people understand they have no control over where any of their tax dollars go? And voting in people who will increase the tax payouts such as SSI and welfare and so on just gives this woman, her 14 little check-makers and others a raise! You may be willing to carry them all on your back, but I am not. Sadly, as I said, there is little that any of us can do about it. I hope for every entry on a blog, whiny or otherwise, people are also emailing their senators, congressmen and president.

And no one can read God’s mind. That’s what scripture is for, to tell us his plans/wishes/etc. If you don’t believe in God, you might look at the uterus and vagina. They give pretty good clues as to how the body is designed and what it is designed to do…which is not deliver litters.

I’m astonished that everyone is wasting their time judging the fact that she’s single and lives with her parents and has 6 children. Is that a decision I would make? Heck no.

BUT the REAL issue here is how IMMORAL, UNCONSCIONABLE AND RECKLESS it is to gestate 8 babies AT THE SAME TIME – which is playing Russian roulette with their lives and health. High order multiple pregnancies rarely end well. Death and SEVERE physical and mental disabilities affect these children at birth.

If she couldn’t reduce the pregnancy then she had a moral and ethical obligation to make sure she had no more than 2/3 embryos transferred to her uterus.

High order multiple pregnancies result in SEVERE prematurity which is CATASTROPHIC and this woman KNEW thos facts! She is a MONSTER!

it’s pretty amazing that all eight of those babies survived the birthing process

Sigh….reading all of these comments have made my heart sick. All this judgmental attitude about a woman none of us knows. Her story is not even out yet and still I read all these assumptive comments. Is this the voice of the pro-choice? If this is her choice, who is anyone else to judge her? We are not allowed to react with such outrage towards those that kill babies without giving the little ones the choice to live or not because of being the same kind of “judgmental”. These same little ones are not given the choice to live or die. It is made for them. Where is pro-choice for them? Kind of strange in this world today. Maybe this is her pro-choice statement? Just have to ponder this…..

i have 4 children and wouldn’t mind having more. all children are a blessing from God money shouldn’t be a factor in having children are not having children. congraulations to this family I pray that all the children and the parents do well. It is no bodys business on how many children that somebody else has.

In today’s economy raising 6 children is a real challenge. The idea that she actually had fertility treatments to have MORE children sends a message someone plans to live off TAXPAYERS for a long time. Her doctor should be slapped…….Just plain STUPID.

Doctors already play God enough. Stem Cell testing on humans is around the corner. The doctors that assisted this woman with IVF should lose their medical license. It was very reckless and not responsible to allow her to even receive IVF, let alone carry 8 babies. I believe a baby is the most wonderful, prescious blessing. I HAVE TO AGREE, WOMEN ARE NOT 4 LEGGED ANIMALS; THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE LITTERS. There is no way to give 14 children the love, support and care they will need to flurish. VERY SELFISH. I believe in a woman’s right to choose, however, somone SHOULD have chosen NO for this mother. She already had 6 children. Just another way to make tax payers dig into their wallets.

Parents of multiple pregnancies would face neither increased medical problems for the mother and babies, nor the horrible choice of selective reduction, if doctors were not allowed to implant so many embryos simultaneously. Implanting several embryos does increase the probability of pregnancy, but it also increases the probability of problems. Medicine (and hopeful parents) should consider the health of the mother and potential babies above the cost of possibly implanting more embryos later if the first attempt does not produce a pregnancy. Efficiency should never outweigh life.

Ann, I could not have said it better myself! You are RIGHT ON! You are not seeing the negative side of this, you are merely being realistic and not in LALA- land with those who are not.

This is an outrage!!! Does this woman really have a husband????? When this women wiggs out and hurts someone the physicians involved should be held under conspiracy charges. In times when people are losing jobs, don’t have healthcare even IF they are hard working folks, you have this going on. If there is a guarantee that none of these children will ever be a financial burden on society then I say go for it. Otherwise, this is gluttony, which last time I read the bible is a sin!!!!

Few thoughts: 1. Didn’t this lady already have six children? Agree that every life is sacred, but lets look at reality, is the church going to pay for their health care, is the church going to pay for clothes,housing and food? People of faith, I take nothing away from you, but I’m pretty sure, in my own simple mind, that the Lord didn’t intend for his words to justify selfishness, and that is what this is. You are free to practice your religion and your beliefs, but please stop trying to impose them on everyone else, and if you can’t afford a house for you and your 6 children, chances are you will not be able to afford it for eight more. Now if this family will make sure that they are able to afford all their kids and that those kids are going to be productive members of society, then what I say does not apply to them, but again, lets look at reality… and since they are already here, good bless those kids

what do you mean money shouldn’t be a factor!??!???! if you can’t afford them, you shouldn’t have them. How selfish is that!!!

The actual context in which this woman conceived, gestated, and gave birth to “her” octuplets must be reprehensible if not downright illegal at the rate facts are miserly given out. At intervals we have learned that she is single, that she has 6 other children, that she lives with her parents…. We have yet to learn the origins of her older children, e.g., who their father(s) is/are; what rationale she had for going to super-natural means to conceive (again); how she supported those 6 and plans to support them and the additional children she chose to have; what doctor presumed to take it upon him-/her-self to aid her in conceiving or assisting her to conceive and then carry what the medical specialists believed were 7 fetuses; etc. I speculate that unethical, if not illegal actions were taken. The fertility medical personnel may be guilty of malpractice, the mother or parents of stupidity or cupidity (greed). I pity the babies who will never live a “normal life” as “normal life” is defined in the material, emotional, psychological, and medical terms associated with the typical baby born in the United States today. Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. God gave us the ability to aid childless couples, but I believe He meant we should use it carefully and for His purposes. The event saddens me. (I find some small humor in the title to this blog. I doubt parents who were expecting 7 babies were “stunned” by the appearance of the eighth.)

All I can say is that that mother will spend most of her next eighteen years sitting in I.E.P. meetings. That’s a fact.

Dr. Manny, were you aware the woman already has 6 children at home? Why on earth would Kaiser have allowed her Fertility Treatments when she already had 6 kids, under the age of 7. She now has 14 children under 7. How does one parent all those kids. I blame Kaiser for this unethical situation. It is just plain wrong. Yes, she lives with her Mom, 2 women taking care of this many kids is just not possible. This is unfair to the children who were already in this family. Were Psychological tests done on this mom to see if she was mentally stable?

Shame on Kaiser.

Regards, Vanessa Binder

I just hope we don’t see this family on Extreme Home Makeover in a few years, but we probably will.

Comment by Ann
January 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Shame on this woman and shame on the doctors that allowed this to happen. There is nothing cute or sweet about a woman having a litter of children, it is not a miracle, it is just people doing things without thought of who it might affect. Every child born who weights less than a 1000 gms gets a SSI check, then the parents want free diapers,formula, new van and then I need a bigger house, give me, give me. I can almost garantee that at least one of this children will have health problems at we the tax payers will have to shoulder for the rest of that child’s life. I have heard enough about these non-miracles!!!!

Ann posted this before we knew all the facts that have come out. Strangely enough, I felt the same way as soon as I heard the news. I knew something was wrong because these types of births are EXTREMELY rare, if not impossible without intervention. This IS NOT a miracle. This is unbelievable irresponsibility on the part of the mother and all of the doctors involved. Now all of us Kalifornians will have to pay for this experiment. This is truly pathetic!!!

Who paid the doctors and hospital? A single, unwed, unemployed mother of 14…the doctor who implanted 8 embryos should be held financially responsible for these 8 children for the next 18 years.

No comment,but have a question. How does an unmarried woman with 6 children qualify for invitro fertilization. She obviously isn’t infertile. To top it off she is living with her parents. Who paid for this?

As I have heard, these parents already have 6 children, so why go through artifical means to have any more. I’d like to know if their family of 6 children has been receiving benefits, welfare, food stamps, etc. And will they be able to support 14 children?

This is disgusting. Why was she even taking fertility drugs? After 6 kids, I’d say she was plenty fertile. Then to bring 8 more children into this world that could be potential burdens on an already overburdened society. Does the medical community take no responsibility at all? Shame on them.

Un ethical by the Drs.!! First I thought oh ok then when I heard she already had six my opinion changed. Endangering a womans life all to make history.!! If true no father is involved so who foots the bill Taxpayers.!!

I agree, shame on everyone who allowed this to happen, its not like she NEEDS 8 more kids, with 6 perfectly fine at home.

Yet we’re in a recession? How long till they ask for assistance from the government?

What a selfish thing to do to innocent babies.

The topic we should be focusing on is the irresponsibility of the fertility clinic that let this happen! Obviously, this is an emotionally or mentally ill woman who cannot stop reproducing. She cannot financially or physically care for all these children; now society will bear the burden. Whatever happend to medical ethics?

Hello,

As a doctor in Southern California, I can tell you that I have my suspicions about this woman’s pregnancy. We know she was already pregnant, and beyond the point of possible selective termination of her fetuses at the time of presentation to Kaiser Permanente (an organization which does not even do in-vitro fertilization). I too, wonder who would have performed an IVF procedure, or given her ovarian stimulation therapy when she already had six children. I’m annonymous here, so I will just go ahead and say what’s on my mind, she likely had the fertility procedure(s) in Mexico. That would be the best explaination for what has happened. It would be too unethical for this to have happened in the United states.

annonymous physician

As a mother of 13 week old twins concieved via ivf, i have a hard time thinking we know the truth about this woman. No dr would put back 8 embroyos in a woman in america. It’s too risky. I remember being at the RE when I had my retrevial and the dr clearly said they never ever put back more than 4 embroyos into a woman and that woman must of advanced maternal age. I am in my 20’s and they told me no more than 2 for someone of my age. Maybe this woman went to mexico or something for this. It has also been stated she has no medical coverage and she has 6 other children!

Only God can make a miracle! God gave us a wonderful way to conceive children which should be done between two people who love each other. Have you ever heard of 8 children naturally conceived all born at once? The Dr. who did this should be relieved of his license. Why in the world would he do this? We have too many irresponsible people in this world having babies and driving up insurance costs and taxes, expecting everybody else to take care of the expenses. This includes many illegal aliens who come here, have their babies in hospitals, the hospitals have to raise costs to cover ALL women who can’t pay; then the taxpayers have to contend with rising hospital costs because the kids go to the emergency room with every cold, etc. This goes on and on for years.
I do not believe we should interfere in the course of nature, and that perhaps the reason some do not have their own child could be because there are so many beautiful children in the world who desparately need parents to love and cherish them.
But I also believe that there are so many people in this country who are totally irresponsible and who are only too willing to live on handouts from the “government” (TAXPAYERS).
But I would not call the babies a “litter”. That is too harsh!

This woman asked to have 8 eggs implanted in her on purpose – this woman only wants the money she will get – she already has 6 children all under the ages of 5 or 6 and is living with her mother on welfare – so we in California are already paying for her and her 6 children and now we will have to pay for her and her 14 children – shame on the doctor for agreeing to this and shame on her – one can only hope that they will all be healthy but they are so small they could have some serious health problems – let’s pray they are well – but this was not a miracle – it was a planned multiple birth pregnancy.

i forgot to add the very first comment on here made my Ann is just not right. I find it completely rude that you refer to any baby born via infertility treatment WRONG! My children we created by MY EGG and MY HUSBAND’S SPERM. I am not as forunated to be able to get pregnant the normal way because of medical issues. I had undergo a lot of painfully medical procedures to get my beautiful healthy twins! Every child is a MIRACLE and BLESSING. Just because this woman abused treatment doesn’t say that myself and others are out their looking for a free right.

WE DO NOT ACCEPT HANDOUTS FROM ANYONE! We buy EVERYTHING for our children and ourselves.

First, I agree with Mir. If you believe you are pro-choice: this is her choice.

In the comments above, I’ve read several different statements about her situation, all contradictory.

In her situation, I would consider moving in with my parents simply for the support. And I’m happily married.
We don’t know whether she’s married or not. So, let’s wait tell someone can say for sure.
We don’t know what her father and husband/father of her children are doing right now. I didn’t see it in this article. If you know more, please cite your source. Others are also interested.

Premature birth is HARD. A woman commented earlier who had the premie who suffered his whole life. Not all premies suffer to that degree.

IEP (Individualized Educational Plan: what happens when a child has issues at school) can happen to any family. Even the “smart” kids may need special attention. Go look up the laws about it.

Assuming that someone had a child for the welfare benefits is kind of odd. Children cost more, in time, $$$, energy, and love, than welfare checks can possibly cover. Which she probably already knew, as she already had 6 children.

I agree, it is rather odd to have the highly invasive fertility procedures performed on a woman who has several children already. I also wonder at the reasoning. The simple fact that they did not expect the eighth seems to support the theory that some multiplied after implantation.

Who wants to bet me that a church organization has already funded a new “BIG” home for these blessings! Christians seem to think this is a gift from God and they should build a temple for this goddess and will be bringing in tithes from faithful servants of their church organization to pay for her and her tribe. So along with state assistance and donations and company perks….she will be well rewarded for being irresponsible, selfish, greedy, ignorant and will live off the generosity of others.
I have been a single working mom of five for eighteen years, owe $50,000 in student loans and have no health insurance but I work hard, and am responsible for my children. I went back to college at 48 years old and now I am a teacher. I have no sympathy whatsoever for this woman. Anyone helping her is sending a message that this is not only okay but rewarded. The harm she has subjected to her babies is downright abuse; they will very likely suffer from learning disabilities and serious health issues due to lack of adequate development. Plus six kids at home need her……she cannot give all these children what they really need. I really dislike this woman.

Life is sacred and children are blessings, however, parents have a responsibility to provide for their children emotionally and financially. According to the USDA, in 2001 the cost of raising a child for a dual parent family earning between $39K and $66K per year was approximately $9,500 per year from birth to age 18. Today, the cost per year per child is estimated at $11K. It is unlikely the mother of 14 children will find the time to feed, bathe and diaper her offspring while at the same time earning the $2.15 million per year she will need to financially support them. Based on the information known to date about the family and the mother, it seems the American taxpayers, not the parents, will bear the financial burden of these sacred blessings.

wow!! 14 children below the age of ten, and only gave birth 6 times if that was me i would have jumped off a cliff, more power to her.

WHy on earth would someone with 6 kids enter into a fertility drug program? According to media-lives with parents and has a a husband in Iraq. Who will pay for these kids? Taxpayers? I respect the father for working for our country. However, be responsible. I hope i am still alive to see how these children progress, all 14 of them. Oh and why is the mother hiding-does she realize that wholeness, and self-assruance and respect doesnt just come from unconditional love-over and over again-but from within? i am outraged by the abuse of the power of being a woman-completely outraged…
Britta Demkow

what is so difficult to understand? 14 kids-living with parents-husband for questionably some of these children serving in iraq-taxpayers for another insecure self absorbed American woman who feels giving birth is the way to confidence and unconditional love instead of… -well most dont have those internal genes-and cannot be educated on patheticism

I’ve got two suggestions for the ‘family’ and medical team that plotted to foist this litter of eight more illegal snot-nosed free-loaders on the law-abiding taxpayers ,who are going to have to shoulder the unthinkable financial burden incurred by yet another of these self-serving and back-door rip-offs:

1. to the free-loaders: pack up your sorry-assed illegal bunch of brats and family members and slither back to whatever crap-hole third world muck-sucking country you came from! Just because they don’t want you, doesn’t give you the right to come to Our Country and act like we owe you something. (By the way, I’ll resent also having to pay someone to interpret this message for you, because there’s a 99.44/100ths chance that you don’t speak English).

2. to the medical team: surrender your medical license because you clowns don’t deserve to practice medicine. Since when do idiots like you get to decide to just piss away over $3 million in ‘legal’ taxpayer money just to get a few minutes to show your racist and self-serving mugs on television? It’s because of that attitude that I’m burdened with ridiculous health insurance premiums, co-pays and am charged upwards of (roughly) $10-$15 for a Tylenol tablet if – God-Forbid – I’m delusional enough to think that I have the right to go to a hospital for medical care.

Oh yeah, and to all the do-gooders who think that any negative reaction to this farce is ‘just terrible’: Carry your whiny asses out to California and either take on the financial burden of supporting one of those 14 leaches,for life, or take them all to the airport and pay for their to return to the ‘homeland’!

HEY MOTHER OF EIGHT+ SIX, GREAT JOB! NOW WOULDN’T IT BE WONDERFUL IF YOU COULD HAVE TEN MORE CHILDREN AT ONE TIME? HEY, THEY ARE CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, NOW THAT IS A THOUGHT. JUST LAY BACK AND BREAD LIKE A SOW, ISN’T LIFE GRAND? GOOD LUCK CASHING THAT CHECK, YOU DESERVE IT.

BWC

Whether I’m a Mum or not, whether I’m a Christian or not is irrelevant. If the news is correct, this woman already has 6 children and lives at home with her parents. This is no miracle. It sounds like my worst nightmare come true and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

This is no life for either the parents or the children, little indviduality and the love and attention watered down 8 times. The practicalities of it are overwhelming.

So, she will be dependant on “donations” by daiper companies etc…in return for what? Living life in the public eye, being public property, obliged to give interviews and photo shoots to every trashy magazine there is around the world so everyone can look on and pity her. Until, of course, we all get bored and are no longer interested in the lives of these 8 babies, if they all survive.

If she has the economic means to pay for all these children, great, all power to her, but somehow I strongly doubt it. In which case, it’s simply irresponsible.

What will happen after the all the hoop-la ends on this story and reality sets in with this family, and the hugh responsibility of caring for these 14 children ? I will put money on it that america will see another TLC reality show – Except the title wont be ” Jon & Kate plus 8 ” …..It will probably go something like ” Family of 14 living on welfare “……Lets face it ….The cost of feeding 3 children now a day is hard…..My BIGGEST question on this story is ..What doctor in his right mind would give a women who is 30 years old and already has 6 children, fertility drugs ??? She is obviously not in any financial position to take care of these 14 kids since it was only a little over a year ago the she filed bankrupcy…..My heart really goes out to the other 6 children who wont get the attention and emotional support that they so deserve….. And what really breaks my heart is that I know there must be hundreds of women reading this story. who CANT conceive a child…..And how unfair it all seems….
My last question is this ….Since this women could not pay her mortgage or credit card bills, and who buys groceries for her other 6 children with food stamps…WHO paid for the implated embryos ??? California Taxpayers ??

People shouldn’t talk about this women as if she’s trash.God allowed her to have all eight of these childen,if not he would have taken them which ever one he wanted.MONEY can be a factor but she can do it.If she is a good mother she’ll do what ever it takes to make her children have everything that they need.Look at the rich they are losing there money just like the poor.Even some of them has had kids out of wed lock,but they just hide their sin.When the normal person is just happy to have a kid,they don’t worry about what people think.God looks at them for talking about the person that had that kid.Give this lady a break.Thank God she loves kids and that she takes care of her other six children.When this lady doesn’t provide or take care of her children when thats when the state will step in and do something about it,but it’s not the public’s place to decide if this women has something wrong.BACK OFF PEOPLE!!!!!!This lady will be fine.

I can’t believe Robert—Foster Care. Do you know how much a child taken from a home and put into foster care cost per day. $25.00 plus, along with free daycare, medical care, clothing allowance, free lunch, free books, and then free college, and all that goes with it. The cost to the state for a judge, social workers and case workers. Then to top it off paying for the parents to get rehab or paying for a jail stay because of drugs etc.. Many of the moms with children in foster care just keep having babies and the public keep supporting them. My thought on that is I can understand one mistake but after that cut them off of assisstance. I think that even if we do need to help this family, that it is much better than paying for those who just screw around to get more money. I have always thought that as a taxpayer who has to pass a drug test to work and support the system–WELL those on public assisstance should be required to pass a drug test before they get their money. Anyway–
It wasn’t that many years ago that average family consisted of 5-14 children. Leave them alone.

I have never written a comment about anything before but this is terribly upsetting. In many cases, criminals come from broken families and families living in poverty which is in my opinion the only way these people will live.
My husband and I both have good jobs and we raised 2 wonderful children without too many upsetting occurrences and it was all we could do to keep up with all the activities, etc. and to have enough time for them in addition to our other duties.
I only know 1 person with 5 children and they certainly can afford it and will give lots of love to these children.
I assume it is the grandfather who is going to Iraq as a military contractor in order to help take care of these children. This is all just pitiful. There is nothing good about it at all.

CRAZY!!!!!

Now that the news is out that this lady has no husband, 6 (?) other children and no means of support, is this still a miracle, or a publicity stunt by the doctor and this woman. Perhaps the doctor should have gotten her some mental help instead of more responsiblities that she can’t cope with. Even the grandmother says this has to end.

Typical responses here from religious zealots. They scream and yell about women not having children, about abortion, etc. But as soon as the kids are born, they expect the rest of us to pay for them. If this such a miracle than the church’s and other religious organizations should be the ones paying for this idiocy. it costs 250,000 per baby in preemie ward. Plus the cost of the 40+ doctors assigned to her and the two nurses per baby. No way in hell is she paying for all that. Even if she had insurance it wouldn’t cover that. So don’t talk to us about her “right” to have children. We should have a “right” to not be fleeced by this woman and her family. Give it a week and they will be on TV talking about how hard it all is and asking for assistance. You don’t have children you can’t afford. Any fool knows that. In no way, shape or form should my family subsidize yours. I suggest grandma and grandpa stay with the kiddies and this woman who just had to have another baby go get a job to support them. You reap what you sow.

UPDATE:
Now her mother, the grandmother has been interviewed saying her daughter is obsessed with kids; wanting kids since she was a teen. The grandmother is so overwhelmed, she has had to seek psychiatric care from the stress of her daughter having so many kids as a single parent. The grandmother says she has had all her kids by invitro, the octuplets were from frozen embryos she had left over. So how does a single mother afford invitro a total of 6 times at least that were successful….set of twins…..thats one….and four other older kids…..thats four more invitros…..so we are up to five invitros….and now the octuplets….thats six……and just how many embryos did they implant that didn’t take……this is so bizarre……..this is simply insanity! There is not father, although there was obviously a sperm donor for the first four named David Solomon on the birth certificate. A previous nanny for one of her kids who is autistic says she asked her how can she afford it and she answered she is getting paid. I bet she is on state public assistance, paying for the millions it cost for these special need children and has been living on federal student loans, since she has been in college for years. She is from Nigeria but all her kids will be American citizens and paid for by the American government. There needs to be an investigation into this because there is something criminal and illegal about all this.

Im with Roland, God is in control and no child born is outside of his will. This women will face many trials and tears on this journey. She need prayers and support not slanderous remarks and judgement.

SHe needs her head exaimed. Family and children Services needs to keep an eye on her. While is great to use this procedure (under certain situations), this women told her mother she wants to see how many she can have.

She lives with her mother. Her mother is fed-up and the family’s home doesn’t look like they can afford it and certainly isn’t big enough. I for one don’t want to be one tax payer that has to support her and that many kids. Who paid for the procedure. Who is going to pay for a hospital bill that will be about a quarter of a million. Yes you read that correctly. Eight babies in the neo unit for 2 months. She was also in the hospital 2 months before she delivered.

The doctor should also be named and watched!

Sorry people this SINGLE woman named Nadya Suleman already has SIX other children one whose Autistic and did it ALONE with NO husband. She divorced the X years ago and they produced no children.

She bankrupted herself and now lives with her parents. Her mother said the daughters been obsessed with having babys since age 17 and the mother said that when her daughter comes home from the hospital she wont be there they’ve had enough and of her antics .

Hell..I don’t blame her as her daughter has taken advantage of her and her father who are 67 & 70.

Being that this woman looks to have severe mental health problems as she’s lied to get fertility treatments by not telling the Doc she had 6 others, I say take the newborn kids away and give them to people who have none.

Shows such as Jon & Kate Plus 8 glorify having multiples in the hopes of getting rich such as the Gosselin’s have done . They bought a 1.3 million home in October and a New condo in Park City Utah in December. It wouldn’t surprise me if more people would try for multiples as it would seem one can get rich by doing so at the detriment of ones children.

i really dont know how people can be so mean.this is little babies that we are talking about.and you are calling them a liter.the woman is not a dog.i say god bless her and here pretty little 8 babi.es.and my they all be healthy

I feel that the mother has whatever right to have as many kids as she want’S AMERICA is a free country, but i do think that people should have enough morals to have only enough as you can take care of and now with the economy the way it is I think people should take that into consideration also before having so many kids, who knows when u can loose your job?

I am a single mother of two children , i couldnt imagine having 14 children to raise , to even take care of just yourself is exspensive enough , unless of course the women’s dr is wanting to raise the children????? lol who knows

BUT I DO THINK THAT THE DOCTOR THAT DID THAT WAS A COMPLETE IDIOT AND SHOULD HAVE HIS LICENSE PROVOKED , FERTILITY SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR PPL WHO CANT GET PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are in touch with this Mother. I understand she is not married and has 6 other children. No one with 6 children should even be allowed to have invitro fertilization! This is a travasty to medicine and ethics. You should reveal the doctors that agreed to give her fertilazation so that we can blast them! Is she on welfare? Is this 6 more children that will be covered by the system and her other 6 with a crazy lady that has no regard for reasonableness and just wants to birth babies??
You are crazy to have participated in this cover up and not sharing the information. Yes, you are supposed to give care to a person and their babies being born. Pat yourself on the back but now step back and talk about this person getting insiminated when she already has 6 children and no husband or life partner/female in her life. This is gross and an injustice to all the children. They should be taken from her and she should be sterilized so she cannot do this again!
Carol

I agree with yves. If this women truely does already have 6 other children, lives with her parents and the husband is MIA then shame on her for bringing these children into this world. And if the doctor knew then his license should be pulled in all 50 states. If she is on any type of government aide it should be taken away. It’s a shame that the children would have to suffer but it’s the mothers fault. There are too many deserving people who don’t lie and actually try and do thing by the book and the right way and still can’t get help from the government. If people want to feel sorry for her children and help her, that’s up to them but our taxes shouldn’t help her. It would be ironic if she saw all the blogs too!

I can’t imagine how wonderful yet overwhelmed she feels right now. I think this is where the term bitter sweet comes in.

Wow, so many opinions…and here is mine: Amen to IVF to help the people, who truly aren’t able to conceive (like myself), achieve their dream of having children. Shame on those who abuse the science, Doctors or Women. I am unable to conceive and was in the process of starting IVF when I broke into tears and decided that I shouldn’t have to go through that to have a baby, and backed out. One month later, a set of twins were born and brought to the NICU at the hospital I work at. My friends (all aware of my situation) said to me, “You’ve got to see the twins that are up for adoption!!” I went to look at them, fell in love and the rest is history. God placed my two precious boys gently into my lap. Something just told me not to do IVF. My boys just turned 3 and I couldn’t love them anymore if I had given birth to them myself. Our whole story is surreal to the point that the boys look like my husband and I, and nothing like the biologicals (Yes I said “biologicals”, I’m sure I’ll get grief about that). Lucky for you, this is the short version of my story.
ANYWAY, unbeknownst to my husband and I, after we started our adoption process we found out many things that we were unaware of including the fact that because the boys were in the NICU, they are eligible for medicaid until they are 18 (however, we have them on our private insurance) and they receive a $900 stipend per month because they are considered “special needs” ie: part of a sibling/minority group and were in the NICU for a month. Now I’m not positive about the monthly stipend for those EIGHT babies, but I am certain that they have free medical/dental until they’re 18, paid for from our taxes.
I LOVE my boys more than life, they needed us and we needed them….AND they were already born, adoption was the right thing for my husband and I and the boys. We have the 4 person family that we wanted.
My point in all of this…..actually, I don’t know, I’m just shocked and angry all at the same time. Some people want bigger families and that’s OK. 5,6,7 or 8 is great….for some I guess; but 14 Fatherless children and most, if not all of them, through IVF?? Hmmmm; and you say that’s OK? Some people just need a reality check including those of you who think she’s the greatest person in the world for bringing 8 more “bundles of joy” into our world. The “No active Father figure” thing is enough to make my heart ache for all of those children. It’s not like she didn’t know this!! And for you single Moms: I’m NOT SAYING that children without Fathers are cursed, a bad thing or neglected; you do the very best you can and you didn’t KNOW that your children would be Fatherless. She apparently did. Geez, I could go on and on about this, bet you’re glad I don’t. Good luck to her and her brood. Oh, and to those of us who WILL be footing a VERY, VERY expensive bill that started about 7 or 8 months ago!

leo:

You’re a jerk!

I think this woman is highly selfish..and yes, babies are a blessing; but this woman is living with her mother who declared bankruptcy before she even had the in vitro! Who is going to pay for all the expense of raising them, plus exorbitant hospital bills? This is what I think: she figured she will become a household name and get her own t.v. show, and people will feel sorry for her. What about the children she has already…what kind of time will she be able to give them? Last I heard, she and her husband split. Watch the next installment, she will be suing the doc who did the implantations! No responsibility for her actions. Disgusting!

Yes congratulations are in order but to a single mother of six children at home between the ages of 2 and 7. She is a full time student relying on student loans to pay for things. She’s already filed bankruptcy once and her own mother who is babysitting right now, said that once her daughter comes home from the hospital she plans on leaving and not helping. Why would you take that chance and willingly have the doctors place 8 frozen embryos back into your uterus only because you wanted another girl? Not sure about the health of other children but one of her sons at home is autisic, why kind of care does this mother give her children right now without adding another 8 infants? I know from personal experience that autistic children need tremendous amounts of love and care and how does this woman expect to give this to her 14 children? Yes children are a blessing but leave the infertility treatments to people that need it more than this woman. I feel sorry for those children. May God be by their side protecting them and whatever he can protect them from I really hope children services steps in. No child needs to suffer because their parent is selfish.

This story is truely upsetting! Not only did the working class probably pay for the IVF but now we will be paying for the babies for the rest of their lives! There has never been mention of a father and the mother is unmarried so why did the Dr’s find it necessary to implant 8 eggs in a mother who lives with her parents (so obviously does not have the money to care for the children that she does have) and who is unmarried? These babies are not out of the woods healthcare wise and have a long life ahead of them with medical problems I am sure! When will this country decide that enough is enough when paying for healthcare costs of others!

congratulations to a single mother that already has 6 children at home, one being autistic and are between the ages of 2 and 7. how does she plan on taking care of 14 children? her mother who is taking care of her other children right now already said that when her daughter comes home from the hospital she is leaving and not helping. she is a full time student and has filed for bankruptcy already in the past and living off of student loans. yes children are a blessing and take it from someone that is undergoing fertility treatment herself it can be very frustrating and emotional. Why would you willingly, and who are these fertility doctors that allowed this, put back 8 frozen embryos only because you wanted another girl? What was this woman thinking?!?!?!?!
May God be by their side and protect them and what he can’t do hopefully children services will be stepping in and keeping a watchful eye on these poor children. No child should suffer all because of a parents’ selfishness.

ROLAND: Common sense prevails. Leave God out of the mix; invitro is not a God thing or God’s will. Your postings say — “Susan, Madchen and some other bloggers on this site all strike me as arrogant, judgemental and mean-spirited types of people who claim to have special insight into God’s will.” DEAD WRONG!!! Your question was: “Why can’t these arrogant pigheaded people just be happy for the family, wish them the best, and stop trying to shame them with their secular-progressive views.” DEAD WRONG AGAIN! My question is: How is — “Judge That Ye Be Judged Not” working for Roland?

I would like to know how this woman could afford the procedure to have the Eggs in planted. And who is supporting these Kids ?

I want to know how a woman with 6 children and no job can afford to have the procedure done that caused the pregnancy in the first place and how could a reputable fertility specialist go along with this?

This is not about 8 babies born to stunned parents. This is about medical professionals making some rather irresponsible decisions. Women have the right to request treatment…….a responsible doctor has the right and good judgement to advise patients to make the best decisions. WHO IS THIS DOCTOR AND WHERE DID MOM GET THE FUNDS FOR THIS PROCEDURE??????. Ok media……do your job. This we all want know.

Frankly, I think the children should be taken from her and put up for adoption. There is no way she or anyone can possibly take care of eight babies or provide the care they will need as they grow. There are many families that cannot have children and could be so blessed by adopting one or two of these children. How selfish of the mother not to want to give her children the best possible chances of success in life, by giving them up for adoption to those who are unable to even have one child and desperately want to be parents.

This whole thing is CRAZY and ABSURD! It really goes beyond comprehension…if you already have six and can’t support them, why would you want to have more? Shame on the doctors and shame on her. Is there no one out there anymore that is principled? Neither she nor the doctors should have allowed this to happen. HOW SAD!

The women may have had the ivf done in a different country. In the USA they will normally only put 2 or at the most 3 embryos. Overseas they will put more. I had ivf done in India where they placed 6 embryos in me. I had one healthy baby that being said i am also a 48 year old women I think the doctor and i both knew we would be lucky to get 2 from the 6. I feel lucky i have the one. As for the women having 8 that was stupid there was no reason to have that many embryos placed in the womb. she already had 6 healthy children there was no reason to believe in her case all 8 would not take, at the very least she should have expected 4. This women did this to get attention and money.

I think that the Dr should have some responsibility in paying the cost of caring for these children. The women is going to sell right’s to the book or movie for 7 figures, that’s capitalism. Indeed, she will need the money to raise this brood and it’s clear she did not do a ‘cost analysis’ on what it will eventually take to care for them.

The cost, eventually, will be borne by the Taxpayers. This is another example of a bad decision that will do it’s damage and then this mother will use the all to familiar line that it is ‘not her fault’.

We have been hearing this tag line for the last 2 years with the housing meltdown. Perhaps she could approach her congressman and ask for stimulus legislation for her kids. I hear congress is currently in session working with a “porkulus bill”.

I have alwasy been of the opinion that any family who requires taxpayer funds to support them should NOT be having more children. it is (1) irresponsible and (2) selfish. If Gates or Forbes want 50 kids, they can support them (with or without any attendant medical problems) through their entire lives. This woman cannot, and could not even before becoming pregnant with invitro.

If I were King for a Day, I would enact a law that any family that draws from the publc till for support would be required to use birth control while drawing those funds (and I mean Norplant, until we develop an effective and foolproof male birth control mechanism.) One they/she can support the family without taxpayer assistance, they/she can stop birth control and have at it all she/they want to.

I expect screams from the feminists, but if it is “your body,” then uyou should be forced to be responsible for it. This woman obviously was not, and some of my tax dollars will go toward supporting those children.

I am a physician, and have heard (on more than one occasion) a pregnant woman state that the only reason she got pregnant was to increase her welfare check. I have also heard this from people seeking to be foster care parents.

This is not the same as in China, where the magic number of kids is fixed regardless of socio-economic status. This is just asserting taxpayers’ rights.

i really don’t know about having eight kids but it is the parents decision they made i am happy u can’t blame no one for doing what they want every person is differnt i am only eighteen and i am still in school i do want kids like at least three happy for the couple and they babies

To Jerry,

I am a feminist who could not agree more with what you wrote. This is a disaster of epic proportions from every angle. While I defend the right of all women to make their own reproductive choices, I also insist that they also bear the consequences of those choices. To expect taxpayers to finance this mess is outrageous, to say the least. The social impact of this woman’s ignorant and selfish behavior is second only to the devastating impact on those 14 little lives that will surely result given the zoo they’re going to grow up in. If she was capable of feeling shame, I’d say “shame on her.” Somehow I doubt that shame factors into her emotional or intellectual make-up any more than personal responsibility does.

And a P.S. to Whitney: You might want to consider extra courses in grammar.

To everyone who feels sorry for this woman; she just told Oprah she wants two million dollars to appear on her show……..and who said she didn’t do it for the MONEY???? I am so disgusted with this story. I agree with those who say…go back to the country you were born in and let your native country take care of your sorry ass and all your kids. Quit milking Americans and our country. I have not one ounce of sympathy for the selfish, greedy, ignorant, money-hungry parasitic mother. Take that! The Christians are going to come at me now! Don’t bother with me….send your tithes directly to her or the foundation she will soon start. God had nothing to do with this mess.

I really think all the narrow minded, negative people out there should shut up! This is a FREE country! This mom has the right to have however many children she wants! It’s nobody’s buisness! As long as she takes care of them and loves them, why do you care? No one bats an eye lash when women who’s children are in the fostercare system continue having kids for us all to support! It’s not that I agree with glorifying single mothers, I don’t but it’s her buisness! I also don’t agree with doctors who implant more than 2 or 3 babies in the first place. I personally wouldn’t allow more than that to be implanted. But life deals you a hand and you have to get through it! And for all you idiots that think you can’t love more than one or two children, you’re very wrong! I have 6 children, all single births and my husband and I love them all and we have plenty of time to spend with them! In fact, I think we spend more time with our kids than most of the people we know with just two! I stay home and my husband is in the Air Force. We certantly aren’t well off but we do just fine and our kids are well taken care of. My children are not being raised in a “zoo”!!! In fact they are much less spoiled and able to work through problems and work together than most kids I know! I think the childhood we have provided them has far more benifits than negatives! The media needs to stop debating this and leave this mom alone so she can raise her children!

The one question I haven’t heard addressed is how did the woman pay for fertility treatments in the first place? Insurance companies don’t usually cover fertility treatments. Last I heard, they can run thousands of dollars which it sounds like she didn’t have.

All I want to know is how did she pay for fertility treatment in the first place?

I stand corrected, original reports said the mother was Nigerian…….the story has slowly unfolded with conflicting reports.
The mother is not from Nigeria, she is from Iraq. Go figure. Not that it makes one bit of difference. Certainly someone who is living with her parents and had to file for bankruptcy (obviously living above her means) and unable to support herself and her kids is in no position to pay for fertility treatments nor expensive neonatal ICU care for eight children that utilized a total of 46 doctors and nurses. She has burdened her parents and others and has no concern for anyone but herself!

Roland, Please, please send you contributions immediately to the mother. She needs all the help she can get. Put you wallet where your mouth is. Be the man that God is working through and use your hard earned dollars to help support these babies; because we are all already paying for this and anything extra would be appreciated. I suppose boob jobs are also God working “thru” surgeons……..??? Get real Roland…. man/woman has free will and must be responsible for their choices and quit blaming or praising God for their pitfalls and accomplishments.

I am not an MD, but as a Registered Nurse I have worked ob-gyn. and delivered two children, having experienced three pregnancies. I have a total of 7 grandchildren, 5 boys and 2 girls ( one boy and one girl are adopted) between my two married children. I now teach nurses.
I am extremely disappointed in the medical people that worked with this women and went along with the idea that an unmarried woman, without a home of her own or a supportive significant other, and no visible means of support was allowed to bring eight babies into this world through invitro. There was no personal responsibility on the part of the mother ( who may be mentally unstable, to say the least), and none on the part of the physicians and nurses who supported and participated in this travestry of medicine some are calling a miracle. I strongly feel that the licenses of all medical personnel involved in the conception , care of mother and delivery of these babies should have their right to practice revoked. They are, in my opinion, guilty of medical malpractice and ethical malpractice and treason to the profession. They also should all have to contribute significantly to the support and upbringing of those innocents, some of whom undoubtedly will suffer from medical and other problems.

Wow….the story gets better….now she has had to hire an agent to handle all her book, magazine and TV offers….she will never work again…… like us hard-working Americans. What mom wouldn’t like to stay at home and get a paycheck? She should have to use all the proceeds she makes off of this….. to repay back every cent she has taken from the state for assistance and pay off the hospital with her own money!!

All about Fame, Fortune & Money. Madchen pegged Nadya right. Can’t fool school teachers! Those overjoyed over Nadya’s so-called miracle births need to take a closer look at IVF, legality and woman in question. IVF, (in vitro fertilization) involves extracting a woman’’s eggs, fertilizing the eggs in the laboratory, and then transferring the resulting embryos into the woman’’s uterus through the cervix. Under U.S. guidelines, doctors would normally not implant more than two embryos at a time in a woman under the age of 35. Nadya’s history is most telling: Been reported by friends and family that Nadya worked as a psychiatric technician before having children, graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child and adolescent development, pursued a master’s in counseling up till first term 2008. Been reported: Nadye worked at a fertility clinic. I think this woman was on a mission, well knowing not to be fertilized with 8 eggs. Someone poor as a church mouse with no home and an education like Nadya does — must have something up their sleeve. Recently reported: Nadya is seeking a television career. With 14 kids, she wants a career? Obviously baby-sitting 14 kids is not her goal or idea of a career. What could she be up to? Keep in mind that Nadya worked at a fertility clinic, worked as a psychiatric tec. “Oh what a wicked web we weave when others to deceive.” Nadya knows her covers have been pulled. Not at all about the sanctity of motherhood.

All about fame, fortune and money! Not at all about the sanctity of motherhood. Nadya knows her covers have been pulled. Can’t fool those school teachers, Madchen’s post pegged it right. Those overjoyed over the so-called miracle births need to take a 2nd look at IVF, legality & woman in question. iVF, (in vitro fertilization) extracts a woman’e eggs, fertilizes eggs in lab & transfers resulting embryos into woman’s uterus via the cervix. Under U.S. guidelines, doctors don’t implant more than 2 embryos at a time in a woman under age 35. Nadya’s history is most telling: She worked as a psychiatric tecnician before having children, graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child/adolescent development, pursued a masters in counseling up till first term 2008 and worked in a fertility clinic. This woman was on a mission; well-knowing not to be implanted with 8 fertilized eggs. Poor as a church mouse without a home and with an education like Nadya has – she had to have something up her sleeve. “Oh what a wicked web we weave when others to decieve.” Cunning & capitalistic ring a bell! Recently reported: Nadya is seeking a TV career. With 14 kid she wants a career. Obviously, baby-sitting isn’t a career option for her.

This woman should be sterilized and her babies given up for adoption, there are people out there that cant even have kids! I live in South Africa and that woman wont even last 1 day in my country with all those kids!

This woman should be sterelized and give her babies up for adoption, there are alot of people out there that cant have any children! I live in South Africa and that woman wont even last one day in my country!

I am a Christ Follower but I think this is just crazy.I agree with people who say that this whole thing is WRONG.Mother is selfish for doing it. I wonder why some people say that in USA doctors will not implant young mother with more than 2…….look at Gosselins, they were in the 20’s and already had 2 kids, yet they had 7 embrios put it(one did not make it).Now they are living happily with 8 kids and not working. I am sure this mom will do the same. And we’re here working 2 jobs and struggling with 2 kids.That’s America for you.

WOW…… To all who is interested….. I seen on CNN News this morning that the Mother of the 14 children has just HIRED a publisist….go figure I thought when you hired someone, that meant you had to pay them……Hummm… She now wants to sell her story for a million dollars.. OH GEE ..IM so shocked !!! Who didnt see that coming……

This has the making of a TV movie for sure. Maybe she turkey basted herself at home after stealing her frozen embryos from the clinic she worked at, seeing no other way out of her financial situation. She saw other families having TV shows like Jon and Kate plus Eight and the family with eighteen kids and saw an opportunity worth pursuing. This lady is no dumbie; she is quite manipulative and cunning and good at getting others to do her bidding. This is sensationalism at its best. The public loves outrageous and crazy people….next she will be shaving her head and claiming Michael jackson paid her to father more kids….HA!………… Ka-ching…….Ka-ching…….this lady will become a millionaire….mark my words. Lets see how many magazine covers she makes over the next few weeks and how much money will be paid for the first pics of the newborns?…….$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Whole Nadya saga is a can or worms; beyond crazyness. Calls for — “whose your daddy.” Court records show that 4 of the children of the 6 prior children born have lsperm donor listed as “David Soloman”. Name “David” in English is “Doud” in Arabic and the name “Suleman” in English translates as Soloman. Hmm! Grandfather’s name (supposedly) is Edward Doud Suleman. But, grandfather’s real name is questionable; no such name as “Edward” exists in Iraq. “Doud” would be at best his father’s first name in Islam, all children take the father’s name as their own middle name. Oddly, Nadya’s father is hurrying to Iraq to work as a “contractor.” Hmm! Getting the hell out of Dodge maybe? Fleeing? Hind flank feeling some heat? Bet he never returns. Grandma and Grandpa Suleman were granted a divorce in 1999 in Las Vegas but still live with each other. This crazy baby factory saga will get worse; the more probed, the more suspicious, peculiar & conflicting. Brings to mind: In Missouri they say, “show me.” In Arkansas they say, “when you’ve tried all the rest, incest is best”. Hmm!

Don’t give her any attention or help and see how many other babies she wants. This is ridiculous..it’s always about the who’s the biggest or the most. I have no sympathy for her. I raised one son by myself with no assistance and didn’t “burden” society with my requests for help. No job, no money, no kids. It’s really simple. I agree with the lady above. Sterilization and removal of the kids. Ick.

Since I started this a few days ago, before any of the other details were known, let me add that this woman is a nut , and now she wants to advise people on child care, give me a break! This is what is wrong with this country,people doing what they want without regard to anything or anyone. And to the blogger who thinks everyone that treated this woman (doctors and nurses) should lose their license, if you are really a nurse you know that we do not get to pick our patients. Hospitals cannot refuse to care for a patient and they must care for the patient regardless how they feel about the patient.

Nadya’s Octo-Breeding has become cyber’s hallmark story, “the gift that keeps on giving”. A poster story for economic and death of personal responsibility. When the Lord said, “be fruitfull and multiply the earth”, he wasn’t talking about an entire orchard. Nadya’s 8 embroys were left-over from a prior harvest; saved and opted by her to have ALL 8 implanted in herself. Whether Nadya did the transplant solo (having experiance in that line of work) or in concert with an unethical pro, the dasterdly Octobia reeks of highly unstable thinking; either one or both know better, implanting 8 embroys is unheard of. Limits on transplanting and unethical pros should be seriously taken up by The American Society for Reproduction that polices reproduction clinics. The Suleman Octo-Transplant is perilessly close to malpractice. The grandmother says, “her daughter loves kids” I love pizza but I don’t order 8 at a time!!

she needs a hooby. babies are not a hobby. i pray all her kids run away and find real love, their mom obviously got none.

There is SO much to this story that comes out everyday. Normally I am very happy for people who have a baby, or multiple babies. However, based on what I’ve heard, I think this woman is a little off…and I feel sorry for the WHOLE family,
First: Her parents bought her that house, then had to declare bankruptcy. So, they cannot take care of themselves financially, much less the daughter and her 14 children.
Second: What kind of insurance does she have? Probably NONE, if she was a student.
Third: What kind of doctor would do IVF on a SINGLE mother, with NO income, (she’s only had one job as a psychiatric (?)…assistant(?) but had to leave because she started having kids), and 6 other kids just because she wanted one more child? How did she “get” the other 6?
Fourth: I think if she applies for welfare, she should be completely investigated. Those children should be in homes that they will be taken care of emotionally, medically, educationally, and physically.
And lastly: She has the gall to want her own show on how to raise children!! (because she’s a child expert!)Unbelievable…she definitely just wants to cash in on those kids….if someone is stupid enough to give her one, they should hire an attorney to set up trust funds for all of of the kids. (her own mother said she’s good w/kids, but she thinks she over did it; She wished she had just become a kindergarten teacher.)
To all congratulating her, u can pay 4 all of the expenses!

To bean:

God bless you and your family…!

To all the TV stations and talk shows that are thinking of having this CA woman come on their show to talk about her experience on having 14 babies (THATS WHAT IT IS).It’s great that she able to have all these babies, but she shouldn’t be made into a movie star.We all know that her bills will be paid by us tax people who are still lucky to have a job. If the media haves 2 millions to give to someone that doesn’t need it. PLEASE PLEASE I’M ASKING THAT YOU ALL DONATE IT TO THE OTHER US CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THIS HARDSHIP. PLEASE HELP PUT FOODS AND A ROOF ON THE OTHER KIDS WHOSE PARENTS LOST ALL HOPE. AND TO JOHN AND KATE PLUS (8) ON TLC. I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME TO ADD ON IF YOU STILL WANT TO BE ON TV.

This whole story is getting “fishier” by the day….I say, deport them ALL back to Nigeria (if that’s where they are from), send the babies and the other 6 back w/their mother, or put them all up for adoption and give them a chance to become responsible citizens, and call in her student loans! Do NOT give her ANYMORE money….she’s been living off of government student loans for yrs.(?!!!!!) And find out who that doctor was, and revoke his license…..He should go back to Nigeria w/her!

We do NOT need to watch her on TV….She’s got a publicist to promote this woman and exploit these poor innocent children! what a travesty! This should be a celebration to the miracle of these 8 live births, but instead it is an absolute disgrace of another display of greed!

(I need to stop reading about this woman…all I can think of are all the people who want to become loving parents, and can’t)

I Have ABSOLUTELY NO sympathy for her she is going to be just another LOWLIFE scum sucking off of the government. I will say that my four kids was enough to raise. Instead this woman wants the middle class working people to pay for her I think that she needs to be put into reality.

Welcome to the land of the FREE! Home of the brave! Never mind the brave…this is the land of the FREE! Come here get what you want for free….then go back home.

All you Bible thumpers are so pathetic! This has nothing to do about God! He had NOTHING to do about this! This was all man-created! She has absolutly NO RIGHT to have 14 children that she CAN NOT AFFORD!

She IS on assistance already with the six that she has, is single and WILL get MORE assistance through SSI with the eight she just had. As unfortunate as it sounds at least three out of the eight that she delivered will be “disabled” or ‘die” with complications….and will qualify for at minimum $800 a month in benefits…..luvlely ey? Is that a miracle Bible Thumpers….or is it a wrong call for the doctor that made her able to deliver this un-godly procedure!

I am a 37 year old responsible single woman with NO children….own a condo…..and now have to add a “few dollars” to support the idiot doctor that did this to this stupid idiot woman who was not even born here! Luvely eh…..wonder what Obama is thinking about this absolute tragedy!

This woman and her parents need to go back to their OWN county with the 14 kids and raise them there. I should not be held responsible for this recless behaviour!

This woman and her doctors are totally irresponsible. I hope no one pays a dime for a single photo or interview with this crazy woman. I can not understand how this woman did not honor the responsibility God gave her by giving her 6 children to raise, but had the nerve to have more babies. It would be difficult enough for a single parent to effectively raise 6 children, let alone to have 8 more. I feel sorry for these children, and I for one, hope the State actively looks out for the welfare of them.
Mommy of 4 under 5 (with a supportive husband)

Unbelievable! The headline reads “8 Babies Born to Stunned Parents in California” I call BS! First off there are not parents there is a parent, second she was planted with at least eight fertile embryos so how stunned could she be? With ultra sound, amnio, etc. this person knew what was happening so stunned is a false statement. Now this person wants to sell her story to the highest bidder? If those babies survive they should be adopted out and this women sterilized as she clearly should NOT! be a parent. As for the supposed Doctors that planted that many embryos shame on you and wanting your fame as well! In these times of economic plight I surely hope that no one supports the idea of supporting these adults for playing GOD for money! I am sure we tax payers will have to foot the bill for the babies, so as I said, adopt them out to families that can provide for all of their needs as they will have many!

Wow how the tides turn! Earlier posts here are all about the miracle of life and what a blessing these babies are. Well folks perhaps before you speak you should do some research into the bigger picture. This person as I call her, has an agenda with her babies, she wants to sell them to the highest bidder basically. I will not condone nor support in any way the people, companies or media that choose to pay this women for “her story”. The fact that any Doctor would implant a women with six children already that she can’t take care of is just ….well I can’t even think of a name for what it is, baffling, disturbing, ridiculous, etc. People, we need to band together and stop paying for this kind of irresponsible behaviour. Do not watch the shows hyping this story, do not buy the book or see the movie, show the Dr’s and this women that we will no longer support such acts of selfishness and irresponsibility! If anything support Nadya getting some psych evaluations and check her out for sociopathic behaviour, namely narrcasistic personality disorder.

I STRONGLY STRONGLY BELEIVED THAT THE CLINIC THAT SHE IS WORKING AT, IS NOT PAYING FOR ALL THESE MEDICAL BILLS.AND WHY DON’T WE SEE OR HEAR FROM OUR FAMOUS DOCTOR WHO HELP HER, ON TV.SO YOU TELLING ME THAT THIS WOMAN WHO ONLY MADES ABOUT $5OK A YEAR COULD SUPPORT HER 14 BABIES.THE DR THAT HELP HER SHOULD BE ARRESTED ALREADY.

Days ago, Ann, Madchen and others took the heat for their educated opinions against this octuplet travesty. However, both “The American Society for Reproductive Medicine” & “Society for Assisted Reproduction Technology” supports the same opinions and have came out and said, “it should never have happened.”

On the race track they sew up a mare’s flap so it doesn’t break wind. Nayda’s flap should be sewn up to take the wind out of her birthing obsession. Economic remedy used in 2nd world poverty countries is: Woman are allowed to have only one child. Certainly opinions are a dime a dozen but children are not cheaper by the dozen. Nadya’s selfish & irrational thinking has put these 8 tiny innocent babies at risk for birth defects & they are not out of the woods yet. Unpredictable as to what may show-up later in their lives. (Autism, heart defects and lung problems to name a few.) Nadya has yet to reveal how those babies were conceived; at which clinic & the doctor involved. Nadya’s publicist says Nadya “has reserved that part of her story for now”. (Sounds as if she is running scared.) I suspect it will take a court order and both California’s Reproductive Societys should seek one.

Nadya is now claiming that she is NOT doing this for the money. Funny she asked Oprah for 2 million to do her show. I say that if she is not doing it for the money then we don’t give her any and boycott all the shows, magazines, etc that she is selling her story to. I, for one, will not watch any of the shows, nor will I purchase any product that has donated to her. I will switch to another brand. Nadya has been a career student for years, letting all of us pay for her education. Has one special needs child at home which she collects a check for each month. She doesn’t work which means her whole family is on welfare, but she isn’t doing this for the money. That women is sick and I am shocked that the State of California has not steppen in and investigated this situation. I feel she should take her litter of 14 and go back to where she came from.

I agree with all of the other comments above here. This person had 8 babies implanted for financial profit. She did not care about the health of the babies as long as she could make money out of this.

I wounldn’t give this pyscho woman a cent. I wouldn’t give her a house or any help. If the children survive they should be adopted. The mother should be sent back to Iraq along with her irresponsible parents that allowed this to happen.

So Mom is out of the hospital and already hitting the media circuit right out of the shoot. She has an interview on Today with Ann Curry on Monday. But they have released excerpts. She says she tried for seven years since a teen with artificial insemination and medication and nothing worked. So she had IVF @ 25 years old and it worked so she kept going back. Every year if you calculate she has six children in seven years. Granted she had a set of twins, so we can say five births in seven years. We all know it takes close to 10 months for a pregnancy. These woman has been constantly pregnant…..she has OCD or hoarding or some kind of psychological disorder. She is trying to mend her dysfunctional childhood she says,….waaaah….she was an only child. Sounds spoiled to me.
So I did the math: When a baby was five months old, she was back in for another IVF. Assuming every IVF took, which statistically is against the odds, she had at least 6-IVF’s counting the octuplets at a cost of $20,000 each……thats $120,000.
So lets see, she could afford expensive fertility treatments every year at a tune of $20,000/year; but has been living on federal student loans and who knows what other assistance for years….something is fishy here!
Ann Curry is good; I am dying to see her get to the meat of it. Stay tuned.

Now we have learned that she has been collecting disability for the last six years because of chronic back pain from an injury at a state mental institution( where she was an employee……not a patient to my surprise).
I say there is nothing like a pregnancy, one after the other to ease the pain of chronic back pain…..what a bunch of crock…….. and of course lets add carrying 8 babies…….must be good for the back too! Again, just shows what an opportunistic creature she is capitalizing on an injury to pay for her fertility treatments and living expenses. I don’t buy it!

I agree, I do not wish to support this woman’s life choices and I do not wish to support companies that will donate products to her in the name of publicity – it’s bad publicity and they should stay away for her! I pray for only the best for these babies and do not wish any harm or suffering for them but what their mother has done is wrong. She does not have the means to care for them (at least I don’t think she does).

We’ll see. I hope Fox does NOT grant her 15 minutes of fame.

As in former muliple births, haven’t heard announced that any large well-known corporations are coming forward and agreeing to donate tons of formula, diapers, a 16 seater van and etc to the infamous puppy mill rancher. Could it be that corporations are also looking at the skip in her tape as she spins an unlogical yarn that keeps unraveling while changing. Public majority is not buying into it either. There is a reason behind Nadya keeping the name of the in vitro clinic secret and also the name of the doctor responsible. If the transplant was so on the UP & UP (as she claimed on TV today) – why the deep dark secret? Frankly, she lied on TV; no law says 4 transplants are okay or legal. Matter of ethics: 2 for anyone under 35. Recently, huge puppy mill ranchers were closed down, dogs seized. All pregnant. Similar type application should apply to Nadya who by and large is an unresponsible breeder who can’t possibly take care of 14 kids in her present circumstances. Anyone with an ounce of brain matter would have known to consider all that going into this whole mess. Which leads to only one logical conclusion. The well-educated puppy mill rancher thought she had found an air-tight way to draw attention to herself, get rich and not have to work another day in her life. The best layed plans of mice and men fail. Nadya curtains have been pulled. She failed to take into the consideration that the phenomena would result in a closer look be taken behind her curtains

I saw a “snipet” of the new Mother with Ann Curry this morning. (I don’t Know) But she certainly looked very, very good to have just carried 8 babies and delivered 8 babies.
They are all breathing on their own and were very good weights for 8 babies.??
(After my baby was born I was still wearing Maternity clothes for some time.)
I wonder if there isn’t something more that we don’t know yet.
Something is just not right and they keep changeing the story.
The news reported a few days ago she only had 4 implanted and they all split for twins ??????
Now she is suffering from “only child syndrom….which does not exist.
Can’t wait to here the real truth. I really have a lot of questions.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY TO CENTS ON THIS MATTER I CAN ONLY TELL THIS WOMAN WHY BRING MORE INNOCENT BABIES INTO THIS WORLD! YOU ALREADY HAVE 6 BABIES WHY MORE I CAN ONLY SAY MAY GOD BE WITH THOSE BABIES BECAUSE THEY WILL NEED ALOT OF BLESSINGS FROM ALL OF US! REGARDLESS OF THIS WOMAN BRINGING ALL THESE BABIES INTO THIS WORLD WE ALL GOTTA PAY FOR THOS BABIES FOOD,CLOTHING,AND CHILDCARE!! WE ALL GOTTA PAY FOR THE BABIES THAT ARE BORN FROM WOMAN LIKE THIS CANT SUPPORT THEM! AND UNFORTUNATELY BABIES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE GOVERNMENT BUT THE MONEY COMES OUT OF OUR PAYCHECKS ARE THE CRIMANLS, RAPIST, GANGMEMBERS! AND THE REASON WHY THESE POOR INNOCENT BABIES BECOME THAT IS BECAUSE OF THESE TYPE OF WOMAN THAT JUST WANT TO GET MONEY THE EASY WAY! I WOULD CONGRATULATE HER BUT NOW KNOWING SHE HAS 6 KIDS AND SHE JUST WANTS TO EXPLOY EVERYONE I’M VERY DISSAPOINTED BUT I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE INNOCENT ANGELS! IF THIS WORLD CONTINUES BEING THE WAY IT IS GOD WILL HAVE TO SEND JESUS TO SAVE US FROM ALL THESE SINS! AND WHY ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN WHY DOES JESUS HAVE TO GO THRU ALL THAT PAIN FOR US KNOWING WE CAN PREVENT THEM!

There are some serious flaws with this mother’s thought processes and reasoning. She has not done her math or had serious difficulties passing her college math classes. If she had done her math and really thought this through, she would realize there is no way she can adequately support and nurture all these children.
She says she is going back in the fall to get her Masters in counseling. She needs some serious counseling herself let alone helping others. So, she is going back to school for a year or more….whose is taking care of all her children and how can she have a job to support them in the meantime? How can she pay off her medical bills of millions( like we don’t all know she isn’t)? Sounds like gramma and grampa will share the burden in their old retirement age raising her brood when they should be living the good life, along with nurses and assistants who will need to be hired for some of their special needs and medical problems. Who’s gonna pay for that? Since the majority of the children are not school age yet, what are the costs of daycare for twelve children? She has not done her math,….even a masters degree in counseling will not pay for daycare costs alone @ 500/mo for 12 kids….thats 6000./month just in daycare….
Then, after she finishes school……she will be working fulltime to pay for all this…..then how is she raising her kids and nurturing them when she is gone all the time and the kids have no father. This lady is nuts! Self-centered neurosis!

I saw her on the TODAY show and she looks like she has had some plastic surgery to her face. Her lips looked over injected and her nose almost “plastic”. She seemed like she was trying to resemble Angelie Jolie..lol It was creepy.

Also, the fact these news people are giving this irresponsible wman 2o minutes of fame is exactly what she wanted. YOU THE PEOPLE will support all 14 of her kids now. She will end up onm tv, with her own show, books galore and she will basically have income generated in for her irresponsible choices.

Sad but true..you have all fell into her web. There is NOTHING hot about a woman living with mommy and daddy, in a 3 bedroom house with 14 children….

I finally saw a picture of this woman, looks like she spent some of her disability on cosmetic surgery along with her expensive fertility treatment. Those lips are certainly injected with something. She should have had some common sense injected at the same time. This woman has serious mental problems; she did everything for her own selfish wants with absolutely no thought processes that were rational and dealing in reality. She cannot possibly have love for her children when her love for herself overrides all other emotions. She wants what she wants at any cost. The only problem is she is not willing to pay the cost; every cent has come from somewhere else. State disability checks, financial aid checks, money from others(family members or friends) but none from her directly. What does that say about her….I think mountains! Does the word leech come to mind? Blood sucking parasitic psychotic human being. No publicist can turn this around in my mind and make her a hero and I think the general public sees right through her shroud of lies and secrets and sees her for just who she is. I feel sorry for no one but her helpless children who deserve better.

How about giving the world an update on how these babies are doing. Some good news would be very welcome

Well i agree with some comments – why bring babies into this god forsaken world, but at the end of the day who has to support them? their parents or the people.
In the majority of cases it is the state ( the people)

i think that the lady is down right NASTY AND THE DOC WHO DONE THIS SHOULD GO TO JAIL AND WHAT WAS SHE LOOKING FOR???? I WOULD LIKE TO ASKE WHY WHY WHAT THE HELL WAS SHE THINKING????SHE NOT A HOME SHE LIVE WITH HER FOLKS JUST SAD AND SHE HAVE NO HUSBAND

I feel very sorry for Grandma Angela. Nadya is obviously extremely mentally ill. She has no financial means and she now has 14 children for the tax payers and charities of the US to pay for. Nadya should be psychiatrically examined via court order and the Dept of Family and Childrens’ Services (DFAC) should take all of the children into custody and adopt them out to responsible adoptive parents. Angela should make Nadya and the children go by calling DFAC. Nadya apparently is a very passive aggressive individual who thrusts her wants upon others without any concern whatsoever for others or for the children. She has shown complete irresponsiblity and mental instability and she is not capable of caring for 1 child let alone 14 children.

The fertility doctor should be charged criminally – among other crimes he has committed a crime against humanity because what he has done for profit is unconsciounable. Also DFAC should confiscate all of the fertility doctor’s assets and use them to help pay for the care for these children. I can not even imagine the cost of 8 premature babies in the hospital for 2 months. Did Nadya even care that these children would grow up hardly ever being hugged or receiving any individual attention? Did Nadya care that the taxpayers and our charities would have to pay huge multi-million medical bills for 14 children and the millions in costs to raise these 14 children? Did Nadya even consider her poor aging mother? Nadya is a criminal.

Do anyone notice the cosmetic surgery she has had on her lips and face from earlier photos and did you see her beautiful acrylic nails in her interview with Ann Curry. This woman is a selfish and self centered individual with serious mental health issues. She spends all of her money on herself and her wants and needs. She spent all of the disability on herself (165,000 dollars), probably on her fertility treatments and cosmetic surgery. Her mother and father have been supporting her and her kids and there are retired on a modest income and they had no idea about the money she received for her injury. This mother is completely delusional and her common sense is askew. She says she was married for twelve years…..not true…..she has not been married since 2000 and was only married for four years and he is not even the father of her children. She does not want a father in the picture because she wants these kids to herself, that is why she chose a sperm donor. This woman is a parasitic leech and suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder and depression and needs psychiatric care and her children should be placed in loving homes with parents who can financially take care of their needs. Nayda does not really know what love is;she just wants to possess. I thing she was seriously spoiled rotten all her life.

Did you see the video with her visiting her babies in the hospital with Ann Curry. She has not one bit of sympathy for these struggling infants who cling to life with tubes and IV’s in incubators. What a way to bring children into this world. She doesn’t even recognize all their pain just to breath and to digest food with their undeveloped little bodies and who knows what other development and physical challenges. Her selfish motives only make her feel her own unresolved mental issues thinking these babies will fill up her holes and patch her cracks!!
As far as getting her Masters in counseling, again delusional;as if anyone wants to be counseled by a quake herself. Help yourself honey and get some serious counseling yourself and get on some better meds!

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANN CURRY SIT DOWN WITH THE DOCTOR FOR A INTERVIEW. I WANT TO KNOW IF HE IS HELPING TO PAID FOR ALL THESE BIILS. WHERE IS THE SOCIAL WORKER IN ALL THIS.

Ahem. Nobody has the right to post judgments about what benefits people are going to want etc. Maybe the people are part of a caring community who will share this joy with them. The joy of seeing 8 kids all grow up together..hopefully in a loving family. HOW MANY OTHER kids will be able to say they have 7 siblings the same age!? I consider every human life a miracle. Because although we are genetically similar in many ways to animals, we have a UNIQUE spiritual aspect that sets us apart from all of them. It gives us..free will. The ability to develop a unique character and to DREAM and STRIVE to accomplish those dreams! Nothing else on earth is like that.

Anyway.. I mean I don’t know the people but I’m sure going to assume/HOPE the best instead of being a class “AAA” Jerk. I can’t believe some of the people who spout off these days. In a less anonymous era, I dare say someone less hopeful than myself would have probably slapped the person who said that so hard that their head would have spun around and around…like it probably does by itself anyway but…I’m just sayin’…. -Bob Weigel.

Guess Nadya never met the man of her dreams yet! I think “Joe The Plumber” would be a perfect match for Nadya. Both have stretched the truth, milked the system, engaged in making false claims & sought the power of limelight. Be no stopping those two short of San Quentin. A pair that has YENOM written all over their foreheads. (yenom: term for money spelled backwards) Nadya worked at a fertility clinic. With inside knowledge of IVF, plus an unsatible need for attention, Nadya should have done a home IVF. Spread-eagle and televised it live on “Hell’s Kitchen” for 2 million. Been better to attempt to collect “fo” than “aft” from Ophrah. With 3 of her 6 first-in-line children under 7 years old, born disabled and on SSI, she seeks more IVF and has 8 more babies which any one of or all may prove later to be disabled. This indicates she is VICARIOUSLY living through her babies with no care whatsoever for anything other than fullfilling her own dysfunctional way of meeting her need to be the center of attention. (leftover spoiled – only child – syndrome)

Comment by Bob Weigel says, — “Nobody has the right to post judgments about what benefits people are going to want etc.” That is a judgement call. How is life on Mars? I live in America where we have right to speak forth regarding tax burdens the public shares due to those who don’t kick in and the right to question IVF doctors who may be over-riding safe IVF guidelines and ignoring their OATH. Everyone casts judgement, noone is so pious as to be scot-free from judging. Get real! The REAL issue here is obsessive compulsion and redundant – parasitic – leeching!! Earth calling — Nadya’s Dr. to come out of hiding. Earth calling — Nadya to get to a Psych. Neurotics build castles in the air!! Psychotics live in them!! A deranged mother on this planet who thinks everyone ELSE should pony up for her desire to breed is wired wrong. So is her IVF Dr. Nadya’s eight babies deserve a chance at a normal life! Adoption is the sanest option!

In my opinion, birthing comments by stags don’t hold no water; no offense boys — just not a voice of experiance. If stags were given a choice between haveing 14 root canals and shooting 14 babies out of the shoot normal way, near guaranteed they’d take the root canals — if they could and had any beforehand experiance in either. An in-vitro procedure typically costs between $8 000 (about R77 000) and $15 000. The Suleman babies were not delivered normally, born by C-section (more costly) and ran up over a million dollars worth of hospital care thus far. NBC asked Suleman how she was able to afford the in vitro treatments and Suleman claimed to have saved money, useing some of the more than $165 000 in disability payments she received after being injured in a 1999 riot at a state mental hospital where she worked. What insurance plan did Suleman have in preparation for her planned pregnancy? Are we to assume Suleman herself intends to pay a million dollars to Kaiser Hosp. out of her monthly disability checks? Suleman’s reply to NBC was irrational enough for any reasonable thinking person to label her two sheets to the wind, two bricks short of a sh*tter and two trees short of a forest. Suleman must be living somewhere between La La Land and Never Never Land. (9 in a 3 bedroom and a disability check doesn’t quite pass the smell test.)

SELFISH!!! That is what this mother is. She wants attention at the expense of her children’s health and the tax payer’s dollar. What kind of person thinks it is OK to bring 14 children into the world with no participating father. This woman clearly is mentally unstable and she does not deserve these children. I don’t care what she says they will not have an easy or fun life. If she is always working double shifts to pay for them who is raising them and giving them deserving attention anyway? Apparently her worn out parents who I am sure cannot handle it anymore. Just think of her six at home who have not had her attention for months. I have to agree with the comment previously that these are not miracles, they are manmade ego trips who will do the suffering for this reckless action. God help these children because their crazy mother won’t be able to. I have one special needs child and it can be crazy. 3 already receive SSI and I am sure more will also. This outrages me because we can’t get SSI for him because my husband works for a living and by government standards we make too much. This lady should really be ashamed of herself and this sick doctor who agreed to do this procedure. I hope California social services looks hard at this woman and does the right thing by all these children. They all deserve a stable set of parents not one who wants a TV show or book.

Under Federal Law, babies born under a certain weight qualify for SSI payments up until they can be reevaluated. Public assistance system is already shelling out bucks for three of Nadya’s disabled kids and for Nadya too. In California, when on SSI, Medi-Cal system subsidizes low income familys. In some states that medical system is known as Medicade. In Nadya’s case, twelve bodies are being covered by public system care; mother and eleven children. Entirely possible and very probable that Nadya’s prior children are recipients of the services of in-home supportive program already and other eight will be. Be that the case, Nadya maybe getting paid as a provider for taking care of her own disabled children while she is disabled? Happens all the time. If not Nadya, maybe Grandma who claims to take care of the kids and provide for them totally with no contribution from Nadya except “toys.” Could Grandma be a system paid provider? Not about where’s the beef coming from. About where’s the money coming from. Not about what’s rotten in Denmark. About what’s rotten in Whittier, California.