The most troubling thing to me about this whole train wreck of a situation is the fact that there is already a huge over-population problem in the world. Why on Earth would one choose to add to it?
Dr. Ablow has already answered that question quite well for this specific case.
I don’t want to diss women who want to experience childbirth firsthand, but if that’s not in the cards, why not adopt? There are more than plenty of babies available who would benefit greatly from a parent (or parents) who want a child enough to go to the extreme of IVF. I have no doubt that the majority of folks who would consider technological assistance to bring about a pregnancy would make wonderful parents (at least I hope so).
It just seems to me that the most ethical reason for wanting to have a child is the desire to give that child a loving home where he or she would grow up to be happy and psychologically healthy, and perhaps somehow make the world a better place by virtue of their existence.
I wonder about the other reasons people have for wanting to reproduce…

Not to mention, the father enjoyed some form of compensation. Be it as diminimus as a tax deduction for mileage for medical purposes on his 1040. Might provide a nexus for civil liability

I AGREE WITH YOU. NO ONE IS THINKING OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE CHILDREN OR THE HEALTH ISSUES THEY WILL FACE. I DO NOT FEEL THE TAXPAYER SHOULD BEAR THE BLUNT. WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT HER STUPIDITY. THIS CANNOT BE HEALTHY THINKING. WHAT DO YOU DO, SHE
KNOWS THE SYSTEM. HOW CAN YOU KEEP HER FROM DOING THIS AGAIN.
THE TAXPAYERS ARE TRYING TO RAISE TWO CHILDREN AND THEY DONT GET HELP. PLUS THEY HAVE TO WORK. NOW THEY WILL BE EXPECTED TO
SUPPORT HER CHILDREN. THE DONAR FATHER SHOULD HAVE TO SUPPORT HER AND HIS CHILDREN. THEY CALL THEMSELVES MEN. WHATS MANKIND
COMING TO.
SINCERELY
WANDA GREGORY

In am so angry & disturbed over this… Where is DCFS?-she has no income ? That means no medical coverage also? She is allowed to do this? THe tax paying people are paying for this crazy person to create & damage these 14 children. This is simply wrong’..these children can not be given loving nurturing lives ..their basic physical & emotional welfare can not be addressed by this single woman. Meanwhile more & more hardworking people are losing their jobs and losing their homes & still we work on–to afford this selfish woman the life she wants Because she was a lonely child? I say NO! I will watch & see what companies helf her out and I will shut my wallet to them. If she cant afford food-clothing-medical etc..these children should be TAKEN from her & given good loving homes. She CHOSE this –we did NOT. In these hard times-WE EACH deserve to begood to each other but not to the stupid & GREEDY-She is looking for books-movies-a reality show etc…PLEEEASE. HELP STOP HER. Other stupid-lazy people will try this so they can get a free ride like she is trying to.

We don’t know who the real sperm donor is, nor whether he knew how many children she planned to use him for. Could have been an order from a catalog. But even so, some of the same ethical issues exist.

I completley agree with the so many who have made comments before me. I am a working mom and my husband of 8 years is hard working. We have 1 child and strugle to get by (would love to have one more…but wont for financial reasons alone)! We have never been on food stamps or ever recieved any type of government / state assistance or assistance from any one else to take care of our family. And trust me at times it could have REALLY helped us. We live pay check to pay check. And this lady gets more money in a month for sitting on her butt and neglecting these children then we do. I’ve seen the pictures of the outside of her house…can you imagine what the inside looks like? Where are all these children going to live? WHERE IS CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES????? She has enough money for Invetro. and not enough to pay the medical bills that she knew would come with it??? I think that there are SO MANY people out there getting a free ride from all the assistance programs out there that it is TOO easy for them to manipulate the system. No one is there telling them to get off there butts and get a job…which is all the assistance they really need. The mom needs to be forced to go back to work!!! She wanted a big family now she needs to learn what it’s like to have to ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF and SUPPORT HER FAMILY!!!!!

I am happily married and my husband and I have a son. We both work and are law abiding citizens. This woman is crazy. I intend to boycott any and all companies to assist her in this stupid decision. I will not spend my hard earned money on her or her kids. Her children are not my responsibility. If she truly loves her children she will allow the system to place them in loving homes. She is not capable of providing for them both financially or emotionally!!!!

no one has mentioned that she is the daughter of an Iraqui father and that he has gone back to Iraq to get work to help pay for all of those grandchildren..She is using the system here for her own selfish purposes. I am not against having children but I am against using the welare system . I am disgusted with the news coverage about her as it is so obvious what she had planned it from the beginning It was to use the welfare system in all of its forms and she is not at all worried about it or her chlldren’s welfare.

This is a very selfish woman. She had no thought of anyone during her decision making. If this man is her friend, she has done him injustice and if he is truly the father of all 14, why is it that his name is only on 4 birth certificates. Nadya is a pathological lier, who has mental disorders and needs to be hospitalized in the very place she worked. Why is she just now wanting to pursue her masters in social work. Obviously she should have a degree in the same, if she had, then what kind of a counsellor she would be if she has no discipline and self control.All 14 children needs to be taken from her, she will not be able to care for these children as they should be. The doctor also had a responsibility to his patient, to advise them appropriately, that is why they take patients history, he should see that this is a crazy person. Why put more children in her care, as a matter of fact her poor parents are feeling it. how can she study with 14 crying babies, it hard to do it with one moreover 14. Her intention is to fleece taxpayers. How could she waste $165,000 and not invest any for the care of her children, since it was her intention to have a lot of kids. SHE IS SICK. What would happen if her parents put her out? How can such small home hold so many? I PRAY THAT GOD INTERVENES FOR THE SAKE OF THESE INNOCENT BABIES. THANK GOD SHE USED UP ALL HAD CAUSE I AM SURE SHE WILL DO IT AGAIN. SHE IS HEARTLESS.

8 infants and 6 older children. Hard to wrap ones head around that. Taxpaying citizens will support these children. We’ve been supporting millions of anchor babies, their multiple siblings and illegal alien parents for years. Where is the public outcry for that? Where is the public outcry for using the stimulus package to employ and support illegal aliens?

It requires a license to drive a car, hunt a deer, tag a dog, put an addition on your home. Yet it seems that any unbalanced whackjob can walk into a fertillity clinic and come out with babies. Tells us where our priorities are, doesn’t it?

Psychologists/ethicists should be REQUIRED in determining who is allowed to have fertility treatments. I realize that most of time we don’t see bad parenting until well after the fact, but when it comes to the fertility business (as with adoption), detailed financial/psychological/home studies should be done BEFORE any treatment. This nightmare scenario of “octomom” Nadja Suleman could have been prevented. Instead we have a no-job-no-partner-mentally-ill woman who is now in charge of 14 lives. This is a woman who has absolutely no business raising one child – much less 14! (Personally, I wouldn’t let Ms. Suleman take care of my CAT.)

We can only hope that somehow these children end up in decent, healthy homes. None of this is their fault and they shouldn’t have to pay the price.

And let’s also make sure Ms. Suleman never steps foot inside a fertility clinic again (or becomes a counselor/therapist. She should never be anything other than a PATIENT.)

If it was not that man, it would have been another donor. Do all sperm donors have future liability with the children they help conceive? Don’t get me wrong this is such an awful situation for all involved.

I am the mother of two children from a previous marriage, and 3 from my current marriage. I had my 3rd child because my husband wanted a baby and it was Twins. The 5th was a shock after tubal ligation. It has been very difficult for us to raise 5 children. We both worked and stayed off the welfare roles. All are either in college or graduating soon, except for the last, who is still at home. I cannot even fathom having 14 children by myself and many being special needs. We have had to struggle just to provide for our own children. I think she is crazy and irresponsible.These children need to be placed in good homes with loving, not crazy parents. I never wanted a large family, but I got one and love each and every one of our children. But we took care of them, not the state. I am now disabled and my settlement went directly to my kids education and to help out one who was out of work. I won’t be sending her a dime.

I read this article and the one thing that came to mind when i read this was… Well, have you ever watched Animal Planet and their shows on animal rescue well this story reminded me of the hoarders on the shows. Where they have so many animals because of one reason or another but mainly because they lonely. It is the same thing here except she is doing it with kids!!!! Then what do they do with animal hoarders they take most if not all the animals and put them into loving homes. I think they should do the same thing here, and get her some professional help too. I don’t think the father should be held liable for the kids for the simple reason that .. well how many women get artificially inseminated and their donor fathers of their kids never know the kids exist or have anything to do with them. To me it was the responsibility of the clinic that did wrong here. I don’t know what their policies are but I think a psych evaluation is in order for anyone looking to have artificial insemination done, and this comes from someone with mental health issues. But I also believe that the Clinics should be watched over a little more closely too, something to hold them accountable for the choices of the clinics practices or the doctors. This is a tragedy. Someone needs to come in and watch out for those kids now before their mother causes them to have more mental health issues then they already have.

I think the doctor who did the invitro should be made to support all 14 of the children!!

My heart aches for these children. Their parents are incompetent and no one should have allowed this to happen. My only hope is that child services steps in and gives these children the life they deserve. ~ Complete with a loving home and two loving parents.

Not a self loathing mother who is trying to make the “wrongs” of her childhood right.

How can one person take care of 14 children all alone. What will she do with them IF she goes back to school, or food shopping, doctor appointments. Take them all with her, she’d need a bus. It’s utterly impossible as even tho her mind says she will take care of them, her body will retaliate and break down. It’s selfish of her to believe friends, family and church will help out because she’s putting them on the spot whether they want to help or not. They have no choice because of greedy Mz. Suleman. She’s beneath animal mentality because animals know how many from a litter they can suckle and feed on their own knowing they won’t get help from pride members. And they say animals have small brains. How small is Mz. Suleman’s?

I agree that in this case there is irresponsibility/ lack of judgement on part of the father, since he knows her. It would be different had she used a sperm bank. According to what she and her mother said, she was separated, not divorced after a 4 year marriage, did not want to share the children with a father but have them all to herself when he agreed to give her the sperm. I am sure the signs of her obsession/ instability where there, he just did not want to see them. In the interview she also said he gave her more sperm after she already had children. If that’s true, shame on him!

Unbelievable. No income, the neighbors seeing the 6 elder children watching television at 2 a.m., unsafe broken toys all over the yard. What are the conditions inside the home? What will those babies come home to? How is it someone who received $165,000 in disability payments in quite recent years because their back is so severely injured from this hospital riot and also suffered such severe depression that she could not get out of bed because of the two–yet how is it she has been well enough to physically carry and deliver 14 children?

I am a mother of 2 and the physical strain of a then-minor problem ruptured. Until then I was working full-time. I never took advantage of it like some women, nor did I attempt to have any more children. I would adore more children in my life but I would never USE them to fulfill my own loneliness. That is my own issue, not anyone else’s and certainly not an innocent infant’s.

Ms. Suleman also employs a nanny 12 hours a day and has a child in private school.

Instead I am a 31 year old mother of a 7 year old and 6 year old, both with special needs; I have had 15 brain and spinal cord surgeries the last 3 years. There is no respite in my home even one hour a week, not even to help me get a shower.

How do I sign up for such a life?

I agree with KLynn’s statements. If this young woman was disabled, how could she possibly carry 8 babies? She should be required to pay back the $165,000 disability settlement because her injuries were obviously not as severe as she claimed. I’ve had two children myself and, believe me, if she had back problems, it would be painful to carry one child full-term, much less eight!! The young woman is mentally ill and needs our prayers and a lot of professional help.
I pray those 14 children can be placed in good homes and will have a decent chance at life.

I agree with KLynn’s statements. If this young woman was disabled, how could she possibly carry 8 babies? She should be required to pay back the $165,000 disability settlement because her injuries were obviously not as severe as she claimed. I’ve had two children myself and, believe me, if she had back problems, it would be painful to carry one child full-term, much less eight!! The young woman is mentally ill and needs our prayers and a lot of professional help.
I pray those 14 children can be placed in good homes and will have a decent chance at life.

As we look at those tiny babies lying in the incubator, with IV lines and tubes, it appears to me that they are experiencing great discomfort and may actually be feeling pain. How cruel to be brought into this life with an almost guarantee of medical care and disability. The lady said she was opposed to aborting selective embryos because of her faith and shook her head with dismissal and disbelief that it would even be considered. Well, consider this Nadya, none of us could stand in front of what a God like yours could want, even the birth of a child. You think you were chosen as some sort of vessel by him? To bring kids to the world who enter with the cards stacked against them and call it a blessing? You who received undivided attention as a sole child?

No, this woman deserves to be scrutinized and criticized lest others look at her style of parenting as a winning lotto ticket and that is exactly what it is. Motherhood doesn’t happen when you spend 8 years receving IVF, having facial features distorted by medical means and b irthing the first six kids. Your mother is who is providing the nurturing to these children as you, Nadya, have not had the time.

Dysfunctional and irresponsible, selfish and bizarre. The father should step up to the plate for giving a lady whom he did not really know the ability to do such a thing to children who have no say.

“I believe the octuplets’ father does bear a moral burden for providing the sperm used in this birthing calamity.” – Albow I believe Dr Albow is an idiot! Not only has he delcared himself a self-appointed moralist but, he is imposing his “morality” on some one who had no say or control over what happened after he donated. SMACK! That’s for being so stupid!

These children, plus the older children, should be placed in loving homes , the doctor should have to pay for their health care, and the mom should be committed for treatment.I agree with others , she should have to repay her disability payments, there is NO WAY she could have the back problems she claims and carried all these babies ! I guess she thought if Jon & Kate + 8, 17 KIDS and COUNTING, etc. ,were such a hit, “SINGLE MOM WITH 14 CHILDREN , THAT TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR”,would be an even bigger hit!!

I disagree with Dr. Ablow: A sperm donor can’t be held responsible for what happens after he donates. It’s not like he made any choices in how many pregnancies would result. He’s innocent. HER on the other hand…. Well, it’s all been said already. What a sad and outrageous thing!

I cannot even imagine having 14 kids and being a single mom. I am a single mom myself with three kids. I was married for nearly ten years and chose to be single because of an abusive husband. It is a challenge that at times I wish I had someone to help me with my kids. I am a full time college student with just three semesters to go and yes, my kids and I have food stamps and there is nothing wrong with that because I am working to become a productive citizen. I did have a great job until they let me go thanks to the economy. With my ex husband being behind on child support for 18 months and losing a job my kids and I have been bouncing from family and friends’ homes basically homeless. Public housing will not help me. I have friends who have helped me find small jobs to do while I focus on school and taking care of my kids which has been hard to do feeling like less of a parent. I have a son who has developmental & behavioral issues. But for Miss Suleman to go public and say if anyone wants to help they can donate really is disturbing. Her mom chooses to help her now I would LOVE to have that luxury but my mom is more interested in helping my sister who acts helpless. I have asked for help and I Stumped a social worker, my pastor and other professionals with my situation. All I want to do is focus on finishing school and I could the end of this year. Thank you Miss Suleman for showing how the US really is.

Nadya Suleman has been a systematic abuser of tax dollars. She is collecting workers comp because she “claims” constant back pain kept her in bed and unable to work. She rely’s on food stamps to feed her kids, but can afford acrylic nails and a nanny service. She “qualifies” for Medi-cal but has an extra $100,000 saved for IVF. Three kids collect SSI (soon to be more kids) – and one “disability” is a two-year-old with a speech delay! Now the family is getting very, very large amounts of money each time they interview. Taxpayers are being billed millions for the octuplets medical expenses. Email the government and request they investigate Ms. Suleman’s abuse of public assistance programs. Now that she’s “cashing in” on her free ride on the backs of taxpayers, it’s time for her to pay her own bills. Email: STOPMEDICALFRUAD@DHCS.CA.GOV and FRAUDHOTLINE@DSS.CA.GOV

one thing that people arent thinking about is what if this women were to become terminally ill or God forbid something worse. What would happen to those kids. its obvious her parent cant care for them so who? the father? foster care?

Where are our lawmakers??????? This trash should not have been allowed to breed – period!

I totally agree! Its not the typical sperm donor, her own mother has said he is her boyfriend and wanted to marry her! This man should be made accountable for giving her his sperm! This is a scam for her to have kids, on our dime and for this man to get away with not paying child support! She receives free money and he gets away free without any concerns or responsibility to anyone!

I cannot believe the vitriol expressed by so many against this woman! Really, what she needs is 14 people who would love to take one of her children under their wing. They don’t need to take the children away from her (an unnecessary punishment to both her and the children– children do not want to be taken away from a biological mother who wants and loves them — ask the Native American children who were taken from their “savage” parents for their own good).

But, like anyone with super-multiples (yes, even those with a well-to-do working spouse), she will need lots of help.

If I lived near her, I’d be happy to take one child under my wing, be a “Big Sister” to him or her… easy enough for me to give hand-me-downs from my kids. The problem of a larger house seems a big challenge, though. And, unfortunately, the first years ,with the octuplets inevitable disabilities, will be very tough for her and them. She may need some help from foster parents for at least half of them. But it doesn’t have to be so impossible for her to raise them, with help from people like me, once they are pre-school age.

BTW, for all the outrage re “government assistance,” the large majority of Americans happily rely on government, or other, assistance to send their children to 13 years of education, K – 12, and tuition even at private universities covers only 1/3 of actual cost.

She did not want octuplets! She just wanted a 7th child. It is her MD that screwed up.

I find it an ironic that this woman feels she can attend to all these children. I had my son when I was 21 years old, his dad took off. My parents helped me, but I paid a babysitter, worked two jobs, and stayed at home with my son instead of going out on the weekends. It was hard and he was worth it. The public Aid system in the state of Illinois told me to quit my job and they would pay for college, provide rent and food stamps, and pay for the child care as long as I needed. I chose to stay with my parents and do it the hard way. It is unfair that the people of California should pay for these children, but they probably will in the end. If she chose to have all of the children in the manner that she did, she needs to work and pay for all of them. The rest of the world is looking at her and saying it is a pretty good con and they definetly don’t want her in their area (comments written in “The Sun” in the UK).

it is hilarious that you people think that somehow this woman hatched this evil scheme to have a bajillion babies and then raise them all on the luxurious lifestyle provided solely by welfare payments. obviously this woman is troubled and has no business having this many children when she can hardly even take care of the ones she already has but our continued attention to her behavior is merely fanning the flames. she is getting exactly what she wanted so stop giving it to her and maybe she will go away. i definitely feel for all of her children and think they got dealt a pretty bad hand in having her as their mom. however, they don’t need all of us constantly complaining. i doubt they will ever fall off of DCFS’s radar. i am sure that octomom’s parenting will be closely monitored and hopefully they will be removed from her care when it becomes apparent (as it inevitably will) that she is unable to care for them all. as for allocating the blame, i think it rests pretty squarely on the doctor’s shoulders for not screening her properly. if he/she had, it surely would have come out that she is barely able to care for the kids she already had. there should definitely be some sort of legal or industry reform on this issue. i respect a person’s reproductive rights but there has to be a line drawn somewhere when reproductive technology is involved. this woman is so far over that line she can barely even see the line.

these couples should please have the fear of God in them and make any provision available for the growth of these kids cause the God who gives also takes. so many people out there are looking for children so if God could give them these kids, why won’t they be thankful. except they are insane hence should be taken to an assylum.

I have watched this BS going on for weeks now. I am enraged! This fool already had 6 children. At a time when our economy is so bad and I watch many friends and neighbors suffering and when they go to get food stamps(after they have paid into the system for many years), they get a measly 10-30$ a month.
All this woman has done is reinforce my belief that many woman out there are BREEDING so that they can sit on their tails and live in low income housing, get welfare and food stamps and WIC, but the women who truly need it (Jennifer is a PRIME example of a mother who is trying to do BETTER for her children by gettin away from an abusive husband, going to school, yet the system is screwing her!!!!).
I can’t imagine having 14 children, my husband works in Iraq on a US military base as a civilian contractor and 4 dogs are enough for me. I believe the Dr. should give up some child support as he was an ACTIVE participant in this fiasco!
I feel very badly for the little children and the grandmother, they had no control over being born and she has no control over her selfish, self centered, egotistical daughter.

Klynn>> u can’t…your an American working and or husband working >or both< paying taxes…you need to be a slug..

I am absolutely amazed at the media attention given to this case especially since the media will soon forget about this woman and her children as soon as teh next big story comes along. I agree there may be some mental issues going on and that the doctor who performed the IVF should be be repirmanded if not disbarred. Alot of people involv3ed in this were in this for the money and unfortunately after the hoopla goes away there will be 14 children who I pray do not suffer for one womans selfishness. I do not think that the children should be taken from her unless she is proven unfit. Evveryone is forgeting teh state of our social service system and there are family member swho care about these children. Why should we add them to a system that does not care for them. I think she should be under supervison for the next 18 years, made to take care of her children by her own means,prohibited from reproducing and should seek mental help. So many people judging but o clear solutions. They are here now, can’t send them back.

Oh, as far as killing her come on people her life is precious and important to those 14 children, remeber they love her and only see her as mom. That is the wonderful gift that our children bring to our lives, Unconditional love.

Whoever the father is, I suggest they start garnishing his income to help pay for the medical bills his kids have incurred and to pay for their ongoing support, which is gonna be massive in terms of expenses (just try to imagine the cost of diapers and food alone for 14 kids!)

He is not an anoymous donor, who, by virtue of the donaton/medical process and anonymity are absolved of duties to their progeny–though I don’t necessarily approve of that, myself, figuring if you contribute to a new life, buddy, PAY UP. No, he is a friend/former boyfriend/whatever, and chose to give her his swimmers. Now, he needs to cough up the moolah, cause why the F should taxpayers pay for his stupid indulgence of a nutjob? Sorry, take every penny he’s got and pay the hospital. Why should Cali-Med pay for these moochers.

What a stupid man and what a selfish woman.

Her behavior smacks of hoarding, and self esteem problems. It is almost a version of the teen-aged girl who gets pregnant so that she’ll have someone to love her forever. I have a 2 year old myself. My daughter is the sun, the moon, and the stars. I was married when she was conceived, in what had appeared to be a stable situation. Things change. Divorce, and her father has since gone MIA. Single parenthood is one of the hardest things that you can do. Not just taking care of basic needs, food, shelter, clothing… but love and attention as well. I have just been hired for a second job, but still I will not make enough to pay the bills, as my monthly income has dropped to under $500. I am on food stamps, and my daughter has health-care through the state. I cannot comprehend that Nadya would have the money to pay for the I.V.F. and alleged plastic surgery. Someone making 12 times my income couldn’t afford it with 6 previous kids, how in the world could she? I agree, she needed screening before the octuplets were implanted. Her doctor broke the Hippocratic oath, first and foremost, do no harm. What of her 6 other kids? Infants take a great deal of time and energy. Toddlers do as well, for that matter. How can they be given the love, and attention from their mother that they need? I can understand wanting a large family, and that it wasn’t her intention to have such a brood all at once. But this is ridiculous. Her poor kids!

I can understand the public outcry and overall outrage over this woman’s irresponsible and selfish behavior. I, myself, am also disgusted and outraged over the unneccesary burden that this person has placed on the people around her, not to mention the unnecessary taxing of resources, all of which will come from us – the taxpayers!

What I fail to understand is why people are not equally outraged by the same voluntary submission of our tax dollars and resources to every poor nation in the world (Africa anyone??) for essentially the same use.

The poorest nations have the most kids, all of which we feel compelled to feed, house, clothe, etc…. To the end result that these people have even more children and create an even larger drain of our resources. We spend unprecedented millions of dollars trying to provide medicine, shelter, food, etc.. and in the end these people just live longer and create more poverty stricken children – creating a never-ending cycle of draining resources (more each year) from the productive societies. Can anyone see the obvious end result of where this is leading in terms of numbers (Productive people verses non-productive)?? The non productive continually outbreed the productive in more overwhelming numbers each year. And we gladly throw away tax dollars to support this.

If we can feel so outraged about supporting this type of irresponsibility on our own shores, then why do we seem so eager to support the same irresponsibility on someone elses?

I am so sick and tired of hearing about how selfish she is, how she is such a bad mother. What ever, leave her alone and let her get on with her life, the only problem that she has is OMG, she is NOT Married she is a single mom. Well, wake up America. The difference between her and the others that have had all multiple births is that she is single, I don’t remember hearing 1/2 the crap I am hearing now. So a lot of people think she should have aborted some of the babies when she found out she was having so many. Wake up people this is what is wrong with society today, to self centered, they are a gift from God no matter how they were conceived. I believe that she was implanted with 6, which ended up into 8 and number 8 was a surprise even to the Drs. So grow up people and leave this woman alone.

I feel the doctor should be responsible for his/her actions. To go through any sort of reproductive medicine, the patient must be counseled beforehand and past medical history is given and discussed before a “recommendation” and/or “plan of action” can occue. The Dr knew of her past, her “disability,” her unemployment, the amount of pregnancies, etc. This Doctor is the one who should be quickly slapped with a MALPRACTICE lawsuit. He/She had the power within them to turn down this patient due to so many FACTS that were present. Anyone of us who goes to the Dr has to give a background of our past medical history…it is so much more extensive for reproductive med (invitro)…the Dr knew…the Dr should also be held liable. Make him/her accountable for their actions and maybe the next patient-Dr consultation in this situation will go more responsibly.

She is the one who chose to have these babies, and now she wants everyone, including the state, to care for her & the children. Only one answer, take the children away from her. She is exploiting them, abusing them & clearly not able to care for them. She is quily of having them & not being prepared for them. Now she is continuing to rely on other people to pay for her choices. She refuses to have the father help, who cares if she wants sex or not, she should have the father there. Take the children away from her and let someone who can give them the environment they need to grow healthy & strong.

And CPS will intervene and confiscate kids from parents who try to discipline their kids with a little spank. Thats part of growing up. CPS should come and take all 14 of those babies from her and place them in homes where they will have a much better chance of having a much better life than with her who is milking the welfare system and counting on all those $millions just for having such a big litter. These 14 kids will have a much much lower standard of living than the kids who are lovingly disciplined by their parents. How much are the bills going to be for the kids from now (special care in the hospital) until only their 5th birthday? We are paying for this selfish woman’s lack of judgement and stupidity!

The real father is the one who impregnated her. That would be the Dr. He should be held responsible for the cost of caring for these innocent children.

I am very taken back at this whole situation. Science has come along way and the vitro is a wonderful aspect of it all. In my opinion it is the responsibility of the medical facility to better screen the recipients of this new modern day science. All the facility saw was a way of making money and a guine pig for them. Just like in adopting a child their recipients should be screened. The living conditions such as income and room in the home.(This woman lives with her mom and the house is in foreclosure. I am sure tax payer will bail them out. The money used for Vitro could have more than caught up the mort. I read where Sulemans lawsuit settlement totaled over 150k and she used the money for this. The mort. hasn’t been pd in 10 mo. enough time to pay to have babies.)
Had the father been more of a random donor for a couple to have a child it would be a different story. Vitro could be a good thing. I would not be suprised if “mom” and “dad” are more involved with each other. Right now this is a way to get tax payers to pay medical and shelter. Let Child Services oversee the kid well-being (they did not ask for this) Hopefully they get taken away and go to parents better suited. Stop the attention we are giving these people! No movies or books! They are striving on it. And we are encouraging it. This is going to be a money maker The drs, mom, dad are all phsyco. I blame drs most. With the way the economy is. They went to school & should have common scense

I understand the outrage especially since my wife and I have had 5 miscarriages. However I ponder the outrage about why the father is now responsible in this case and yet if a woman chooses to have a tax-payer supporterd abortion the father has no”rights” to stop it. Hmmm. we are quite a perverted people are we not? Solution— The children are here now, so call them illegal immigrants and then the entire state of California will be at thier beck and call. Thanks for your time.

Here’s a thought….The doctor who performed the vitro fertilization should pay child support for all eight of the children. This doctor also hoped to gain financially by his act, so he should also pay. The “good” doctor, who knowing this woman was a jobless, single mother of six, should now have to pay for his actions.

Wow. So much outrage at the selfishness of a woman who brought life into the world. Granted, probably selfish. But no outrage at the women who kill their unborn children and call it simply an “abortion” for their own selfish reasons. More than selfish. It boggles the mind.

She is sick, sick, sick and so is anyone who had anything to do with this. All the children should be taken away from her, since the state will pay for them anyway. No one can care for 13 children even in a huge house. Mentally and emotionally it is a disaster.

why should the father be responsible to pay for these kids??? I am sure he had no intention of donating sperm to create a small village-She probably said she just wanted one or two. I cant imagine ANY man in this world willing to create 14 children with some1 who is broke and mentally ill. I highly doubt he consented to any of this and was as unknowing as her parents when it came to her sneaking pregnancies. Also there are several posts here that talk about her father being Iraqi…SO WHAT! She is american born…her fathers nationality doesnt mean anything the fact is this 33 yr old AMERICAN woman irresponsibly went out and on her own with her doctor decided she wanted 14 children SHE couldnt afford/handle-SHE is the one who BY HERSELF made these decisions- She should beheld responsible-not her parents or the sperm donor-HER AND HER ALONE(unless you wanna count that DOC too) Her parents only crime is not abandoning their grandkids! You cannot blame innocent children for their mothers sins-Only imagine how horrible those childrens life would have been without the love and support from the grandparents…I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE THEM ALONE–THE MOTHER AND DOCTOR ARE RESPONSIBLE-NO ONE ELSE!

It is amusing that we all focus on the mother here, yes she is ignorant! BUT…The complete disregard for health that this quack of a fertility doctor has shown is unbelievable. He has placed such a bad light on the fertility world. There are so many truly deserving families that would be and are incredible parents due to infertility doctors. But here we have a complete disregard of safety for the mother’s life and 8 children. First off who in the world would place 8 embryos into a completely fertile woman, a very responsible fertility doc would never place more than 3 in an infertile woman. She suffers from no (zero) infertility issues. But this doctor who has been assisting her for years still has a medical license. Get that medical license taken away and do not allow him to practice in the COUNTRY again.
I blame the doc for agreeing/empowering this situation.

IVF MOM-
You should be angry too. Why would you support and defend someone who by their own choice (she had the chance to selectively reduce and chose not to, so yes this is HER CHOICE to have has 14 children that she cannot in any way, shape or form support financially or emotionally. She is completely irresponsible and clearly does not have a “well to do” working spouse as you do. In the interviews I have seen, this woman’s view of reality is skewed. If she had the money to hire the nanny’s and buy the house, then godspeed.
How about a new show “Trading Kids”. You can send your 5 or 6 over and she can do the same. LOL! The reality is you WOULDN’T let your kids play in her house, let alone live in her house. It will take a lifetime to physcologically nurture and care for Octomom. The right help is for all of her kids to be adopted into families with stable environments and give them a real chance, otherwise, 18 years from now, 14 individuals should be ready to be productive members of society, and do you really see that??

First of all there are certain provisions for social services; people do not recieve extra money or extra benefits for having more kids. I know this is the case in Califonia, where the family resides. These are what these systems are for to help people in need. I’m not saying the decision to have 8 more kids was a good one, no doubt the decision was ill advised.

The nature of the procedure puts all the power in the hands of the doctors and the medical system which enabled this to occur.

Surely this is the outlier for these sort of situations. The heavy media coverage and harsh criticism this is recieving is attempting to use this example to sow a kernel of truth in the minds of many Americans to persuade them to believe that “these kinds of people” exploit the system and don’t have to “work hard” like the rest of us. That accusation is absurd. What was just described is the definition of stereotype. As I stated earlier a situation like this has never occurrred before, and it should not be handled as if all people on cash aid, welfare, food stamps, whatever you want to call it, use or exploit the system and us as taxpayers. That is simply not true.

I agree that the sperm donor should have some responsibility, especially, in these extreme cases. Doesn’t the donor receive money for his “contributions”? Whether or not he does we, the tax payers, are left picking up the pieces. Maybe if the donor had some type of responsibility they would be more apt to “keep their pants on” to a certain degree!

The author of this article is way off. The person that holds responsibility emotional and financially is the Dr. that implanted the embryos. He was well aware of her emotional, financial and lifestyle. He should bear the cost of supporting these children. The donor of sperm is just that a donor.

I haven’t been following this much, but it seems to me that the one who caused this problem is the doctor. Is he in trouble? If not, people should put him out of business by boycotting his business. Will they do that? No! With all the scandals lately, people are committing outrageous acts and don’t care what others think of them. It sort of like an “in your face” type of thing. Punishment is the answer. We don’t have enough of it nor is it intense enough to make someone quit their sick behaviors.

She’s a very unstable mother & Social Services needs to have control over the kids – she’s equivalent to a BANK ROBBER – to think my taxes are paying for her BOTOX (lips & cheeks) her finger nails all prettied up for TV. She’s become an INSTANT MILLIONAIRE will be living in a million dollar home, plasma T V’s all over the house – Porsche or Mercedes, etc.

Not only should the sperm donor shoulder some major responsibility for this moral debacle, the ethically challenged fertility specialist should also pay his fare share of lifelong support for these children and the urgently needed services of mental health specialists for their reality challenged mother.

I notice the absence of his cowardly little face taking credit for this “huge” medical accomplishment, or should I say his choice to perform 7 medical experiments that produced 14 innocent children that will probably never receive the care that they will need in life through no fault of their own. When is the fertility genius sitting down for his interview with Katie Couric to answer the hard questions, such as, when was HIS last psych evaluation? Why does he still have a license to practice ANYTHING besides the piano?

His mother must be so proud. He finally made it BIG! He could have killed nine people in one procedure! What a guy!!! If this is not malpractice somebody PLEASE tell me what is!

I think that DAVID SOLOMON is a made up name. Really…biblical – King David of the bible and his son the wise man Solomon – whose wisdom decided the case of the real mother when there was a dispute between two women over a live baby….

It would be too coincidental for the real name of the sperm donor to be DAVID SOLOMON –

Anyboby consider..maybe the doctor was the donor …he seems to have some weird fascination to be dealing with this woman for all these children…

Just a thought…

YES the sperm donor is the father and should be held just as accountable.

I would not hold the donor of the sperm responsible. He donated sperm for one occasion, and the lady mis-used it. Period. Kept it on ice for 8 years and decided to try it on again. She formed her own problem, and she should be responsible for it.

I can’t really see how this is the father’s fault. One batch of sperm could cause all these children. Perhaps when he donated he was thinking there would be one or two. He has no control once his part is done.

The dr. on the other and did have control. A dr. can refuse non emergency treatment so could have refused to continue to create babies. Even 7 is too many in these circumstances.

We have 5 kids spread over 8 years. We are a stepfamily of 2 and 3 kids that came together. Financially it is difficult. Time wise it is difficult. Since all our kids are teens or older we do have it a lot easier.We have one that has traumatic brain injury. She isn’t receiving disability yet. I want to know how a speech delay qualifies for social security because our daughter will need help the rest of her life and is not a fully functional teen.

I also know that it usually takes a long time to be qualified for disability. My ex took two years and he can’t walk due to MS.

If she had one or two kids and then had the IVF which produced these 8 then it wouldn’t be so awful. But to already have 6 and all so close together, there is no way one person can properly care for them all.

I think the dr. needs to pick up the tab, not the tax payers.

Ok this comment that I read on here this morning was a little frustrating! There are alot of people in the world right now facing foreclosure. Why is this mother being pinpointed? I am 23 years old bought my first house about 2 years ago, and a year after we bought it, we went in foreclosure, and well you didn’t see the news crawling on us and our children, granted I didn’t have 14 of them. I would really be curious to know that if a regular citizen were to take a camera around and document people who have been documenting them or even the people who harass the stars, I wonder what kind of stuff you would find in their lives????? Just a thought.

She has admitted that she has been trying to pattern her life after Angelina Jolie, who has several children and is an unwed mother. She is wearing her hair like her and has had lip collegen injections. It is really sick.

Who is paying for all of the hospital bills?

Since she has no home or income to take care of these babies, they should be given up for adoption to parents who will be able to care for and raise them.

She has no right to do this to these little ones. They deserve a right to have a better life.

Shouldn,t we hold these doctors responsible? They are the ones after all interested in making history and giving no thought as to what those children would face during their lifetime? She is clearly not stable and should be no ones parent. I personally hold them responsible for not being more competent in their thinking!

I am so appalled !!!

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I agree with Maschu. The donor should be held accountable for the financial responsibility of these 14 babies. He “donated” to the cause and its not like she got “Sperm Cup # 4476 out of freezer # 5.” He is not an “unknown” sperm donor. They know who he is & he should have to pay. If he is not responsible for these kids then here we go with a new way of having babies & letting welfare pay for them. Any time you want a baby just find a quack doctor that’s willing to take a few bucks for taking the sperm & eggs, shaking them up & dumping them in & see what comes out. Kind of like science fiction. Then the mother can get food stamps, welfare, medical cards, HUD, free counciling for kids with mental & physical issues while the working people are the ones paying & she can sit on her duff all day watching herself on the news & “donor” doesn’t have to worry about paying child support. Has anybody ask if the doctor is the donor? The cost of IVF is NOT cheap so it makes you wonder if this doctor is the “friend” doing the donating. Who ever it is they should destroy any remaining sperm because obviously this guy has defective sperm with 3 out of the first 6 having disabilities and who knows how many of these 8 will have problems. They should make him come in for sterilization to prevent this from happening again and the same goes for the crazy mom. Also the doctor should be disbarred.

These children should be taken by Child serves and given up for adoption by people who
want children and can care for them, instead, of the TAX PAYERS.

These children should be taken by child services and put up for adoption for people who
can care for them.

These children should be taken by Child Services and put up for adoption. VT

Of course,after hearing the story and finding out the facts that this is going to be a bad situation. We need to sit back and take a deap breath. Blaming the sperm doner is not going to help. hundreds of men have donated, and most with the idea that there going to help a women who is prob married but unable to get pregnant due to infertilty on her husbands part. All these guys are trying to do is help, so don’t blame them. The real fault goes to Nadya Sulerman, AND THE CLINIC that performed this wrong dead. The MD in charge should be fired, the clinic closed. This clinic has shown that they do not perform proper counseling and history’s on there patients. Here is the real problem… not the donors….

I disagree, the person most resposible (other than Ms. Suleyman who is clearly not competent) is the idiot doctor who allowed the implantation!

Why isn’t DCFS taking her children away? She is abusing these children! They took Spear’s boys and she HAS money! This is disgusting and I am so disappointed in our country for allowing this to happen. Our country is in this financial state because authorities do not take responsibility and make people pay for their “fraudulent” activities. This woman lives off of her childrens’ existence and they will have to pay for it unless they are given the opportunity to have parent(s) who can support them emotionally, financially, physically, etc. What a selfish woman.

I agree that the sperm donor does bear a responsibility. If all 14 children were “fathered” by one person, that person has a moral if not legal responsibility to take care of those children. The doctor who implanted 6 fertilized eggs also has a moral if not legal responsibility. My husband and I had two children because that was what we could afford financially and emotionally. I do not want to pay for the children of other people who do not take into account their financial and emotional ability to care for those children.

Maybe this case will create a revolt against irresponsible parenting.

I beleve he should have to help support these children. He knew exactly what was going on. It would be different if it had been a situation that he had no idea who his sperm was going to but he was an enabler for this total lack of responsibility.

I share your opinion too–it was not the smartest thing ever done. But, we now have 14 children who need all the support and love anyone could ever give. They will be living a hard life. We cannot change the circumstances of their conception and birth but we can change the direction of the path that we all know they will walk if we do not do whatever we can to help.

The Doctor who preformed the fertilization should be made to help support those children as this was total contempt for the taxpayer.That would make sure this vitro-fertilization never happened again.

Grave problems are created due to our compassion for our fellowbeings -such as giving so called poor families free handouts like food stamps, afdc (assistance to the families of dependent children) etc. and also giving out more money per child -i doubt whether the parents spend all that money for the welfare of their children! Such lunacy of helping the poor has been going on for years, so that they are encouraged to increase the size of their family every year. This must be stopped. It is sad to notice that this administration is boosting the income of such families by increasing food stamp funds- this clause is in the present stimulus packet – a very political stance to ensure their democratic votes. In a way, our government is the culprit -encouraging such families to depend on the hard working public so that they can get busy making more children and depend heavily on those who work very hard. In order to stop such blunders in future, our administration should put a cap on handouts for such so called poor families and definitely not to increase funds to them. Restrictions on limited size of family members will cure the problem to some extent.

Thank you!!!! I completely agree! I’ve written to just about every news organization saying as much and asking why they haven’t been asking these questions. All sperm and egg donors donors are PARENTS and should be required to be financially responsible if the one they give their offspring to proves unfit or cannot carry the burdens. We’ve essentially created every child’s worst nightmare and source of anger and depression…. Anonymous dead beat dads.

Its sad that these babies were born into this freak show. This woman is nuts to begin with and to know she is supposed to provide all the things babies need and will never get is just sickening. She can’t provide for the first 6 kids so how is she going to provide for these little helpless babies. My heart goes out to the children because they are innocent in all this. This freak is looking for a free ride. She is after money donation, books, someone to feel sorry for her & build her a big house and provide her with a reality show. They say she had plastic surgery to make her look like Angelina Jolie & if she did she should tell the plastic surgeon to finish the job or ask for a refund because it sure didn’t work. It make you shiver just to think about it. Yuck! She looks nasty! Anyway, if she would have saved the money she spent on plastic surgery & all these IVF she could have helped her mother pay the house off & they wouldn’t be loosing it. They could have even added on extra rooms or bought a bigger house. Now she will expect the public to find her a place to live or build her a mansion. Let her join Ringling Brothers Circus, they have huge tents. She wants attention so she’d make a great side show……………..

My question is where did she get the money for the in-vitro fertilization? She lives with her mother, doesn’t own a home, yet she can spen thousands of dollars on an elective medical procedure? I blame the doctors in this situation. Wanting children because she is “lonely” is not a psychologically sound reason for being a parent. Besides, she already has 6 other children!!!!!!

Actually the children have two fathers–one donated sperm and the other impregnated the mother. I believe both should be held financially responsible for all of the children.

I wonder who paid for the IVF procedures. I don’t get how an unemployed person can even come close to having this expensive medical procedure done. My husband and I spent over 100K to have one child. This woman is very very sad and unstable.

We all know she may have mental problems and I beieve no one is disputing that. That being said the doctor should have his license revoked. Any and all reputable doctors would not implant eight or more embryos into her uterus.
Invetro fertilization (IVF) is not the same thing as being artificially inseminated (IUI). By American standards two to four embryos is all they would try to implant on an IVF procudure. If you are smaller framed it would be two or three. An IVF procedure is very costly ranging from $15 to $20 thousand dollars in California. That does not include injections and oral meds. In an IVF procedure the doctor will try to mature 10 to 15 follicicles. An IUI procedure is not nearly as expensive. The doctor will try to mature three of four follicles. At that point they will give a trigger shot to start the ovulation process. She will then be inseminated two times over a 24 hour period and hope that they have inseminated during her twelve hour window of ovulation.
For those who beleive are all these so many American babies to adopt are sadly mistaken. I have a friend that waited three and a half years to adopt a wonderful Chinese baby. Prior to that they were in the American system for seven years.

The sperm donor is as much responsible (if not more) for those children he helped bring to this world. He obviously does not have a heart.

I am the 12th of 13 children – all single births. My parents struggled to give us food and clothing and put a roof over our heads. It was not an easy life but we all survived and prospered mostly because the older ones, teenagers, helped take care of the younger ones. I cannot see how this woman can do this in today’s society. Especially with 8 babies the same age and the oldest in the family about 7 years old. She took her monies and instead of paying off her mortgage so that her 6 children would always have a place to live, she chose to spend it on having more children. Now their home is in foreclosure. My husband and I have 2 wonderful children, 1 has 1 child, the other 3. It was/is all we could afford. My siblings mostly have 1 or 2; a couple have 4 and one had 8 and he really struggled but always worked hard and provided for his children. I feel sorry for these grandparents, they chose to have one child whom they obviously love dearly and probably gave her everything she wanted and now this ingrate daughter says she needs all these children because she was lonely growing up! She had no friends? Give me a break! I pray for these babies and her other children. God bless them.

Thank you for bring the father into this! I am so sick and tired of the mother bearing all the responsibility for the children. The point is that he allowed his sperm to be used without accepting the fact that there would be consequences for his actions. We all have consequences for our actions, and what defines our maturity is how we accept our consequences. I am sick of hearing people propose limiting the number of children a person can have based on their income or ability to make a living. Responsibility lies with both the mother and the father of these children.

Another point is, I don’t care if he signed something to limit his responsibility, if the mother is mentally unstable, he entered into a contract with a person that is not able to keep the contract. So sad! He bears the responsibility the same as her if he is the donor. I would love to see the State garnish his pay for child support for 14 children. Let him “man up” and start taking care of the children he created!

One other person I place partial responsibility on and that is the doctor. I believe there are standards for in-vitro that limit the number of eggs implanted to prevent high order multiples. Why did he do it? Where was he during the initial consultation? Why didn’t he refuse to do the procedure on her because she wasn’t a good candidate with 6 children already? Was he more concerned with lining his pockets than with the overall health and well being of his patient?

The sperm donor provided the genetic material to the lab. It was the lab that inpregnated this woman with too many eggs. The lab should be responsible. There are many anonymous sperm donors that are completely detached emotionally and financially from the recipient.

I don’t think that the donor should pay anything. He did not knowingly give the sperm directly to her. It was her choice and her doctor’s choice to take the sperm without the sperm donor’s knowledge. Plus, if he were to be found responsible (which I hope he does not), that opens the door for so many other in vitro patients to get this unnecessary child support. The only responsible parties in this situation…and any in vitro procedure are the doctor(s) and patient (whether it be a single mother or a couple). They are the ones who chose how many eggs they’d like implanted and they’re the ones paying for the procedure to be done and performing the procedure. If anyone is sued or needs to dish out money, it should be the doctor for his malpractice and poor judgement.
And I also agree with those who said these children should be taken away. There is no way she can physically, emotionally, mentally and financially take care of any of those children by herself. They are much better in a foster home or orphanage. If she’s going to be left with any children, make it 2 at most. It’s not her feelings or well being we should be concerned about, it’s all the 14 children she bore while only being concerned about herself. And in any other situation like this, CPS would have been all over this and taken away the children before her octuplet pregnancy…what makes this one different?

She is behind on her maortgage but could afford in vitro? He knowingly gave the sperm, unlike a sperm bank so he is responsible. THe State of Arizona goes after non paying fathers if mothers go on public assistance for child support. How is California not doing that. If he is not involved WHY IN THE HECK do the kids have his last name. He did not allow that! She is sadly messed up and people are helping her via donations. Now she will do it again! Do people realize she spent over $60000 to be implanted 6 times and to have you embroys frozen..there is a storage fee! It adds up. But let’s give her free money and let the state support her!

Dr Ablow while I agree in principle with your statements, if you bothered to read the history of this whole thing it would appear he donated one time and she had all these potential children created and then put into deep freeze for later use. If he had donated multiple times maybe you’d have a case to blame him for enabling her borderline psychotic obsession with having so many children but the record shows all the children were created roughly at the same time overall. He didn’t continue to encourage her he simply made his donation and after that she and her MDs hijacked the normal sane process of IVF.

I can’t imagine having that much disregard for your own children. What a selfish set of parents. I think those babies should placed for adoption to a loving stable home if. The doctor should be made to pay.

Normaly in the case of artificial insemination I don’t feel this way but, I think child support is in order. Instead of the general population having to pay for potentialy a lifetime of SSI.

I blame the Doctor who did this..

There appears to be only one solution: STRICT LEGISLATION governing the IVF.

There are always going to be wack jobs like the Suleman woman who will make unreasonable requests for IVF procedures, but it is the doctors’ professional responsiblity to refuse them. If they do not, the doctors should have to face both criminal prosecution and financial consequences.

However, that does not address the issue of what to do with the 14 fragile lives Suleman has brought into the world. California Dept. of Children’s Services needs to open an investigation to assess her fitness as a mother. If they find that she cannot provide adequate care, then her parental rights need to be terminated immediately. Give the children to parents who can care for them properly.

Also, her worksman comp. insurance needs to take back the benefits they paid her. It was obviously a fraudulent claim.

What do we really know about the sperm donor? Did he know that his donation would result in 8 additional children in the world? If he knew her well and understood that she had 6 children already, then he should also be held responsible. If not, why would he be any different than any other sperm donor?

I agree with most comments. We should not have to have anything to do with this situation. If the man donated his sperm to a bank and he did not know who was going to get it, he should not be responsible for what they did with his sperm. If we don’t feel we should have to support this woman and her 14 children than the best thing we can do in this country is ignore her. Don’t watch any program she is on and no program will want her. Don’t buy any book she comes out with. Just completely ignore the entire situation and she will not be able to profit from any publicity. The government should step in and find these 14 children loving and competent homes where people can afford a child and give them the love they need.

this lady is crazy for having that many. i wonder if she would let me claim 2 of her kids on my taxes. i’ll hook her back up, lol.

FACT: “A child needs both a loving mother and father.” There’s much more complexity to it, and admittedly far more requirements beyond that statement, but ultimately it boils down to that truism. And lest I get flamed for it, it also does not mean that a child can’t succeed without a loving mother and father–but it would be DESPITE that situation, not BECAUSE of it.

I say again, a child needs both a loving mother AND father. They always have, they always will.

I agree with many of the posts, especially the idea of the dr. having to foot some fo the bill for the care of these children, the CA taxpayers should NOT have to pay for these children. I also agree that this woman does not have a clue, and cannot handle all of these children. Theoretically, it seems that adopting these children out would be necessary, but I also have a problem thinking about these children being separated from their siblings-that’s not fair to the children, and in the end that is what is really important.

The name David Solomon is the anglicized version of Doud Suleman which is the Middle and last name of her own father who is currently going by Edward Suleman when his real name is Adnan Doud Suleman. I seriously doubt that it is the name of the sperm donor, because it is just too much of a coincidence.

Angela Suleman the one whose house is being foreclosed as we speak says in a recent interview, that her daughter is “very persuasive, very convincing” and doubts that the sperm donor was paid, in fact she doubts that her daughter paid for anything because she is so “persuasive”.

By the way, Dr. Ablow, it is “WHOEVER” not “WHOMEVER” in your write up!!!

I agree with many of the comments, esp the ones suggesting the Dr. should pay for part of the care of these children, the CA taxpayers shouldn’t have to foot the bill. Theoretically, it does seem like these kids will end up being removed from the home, but I have a problem with thinking about separating the siblings from each other-that’s not fair to the children and in the end that’s what is really important.

This is a good argument FOR eugenics. Her the Donor & the MD.
Wonder how she would fare in one of the more ‘enlightened’ countries like her motherland Iraq?

as i read all the comments before now (up to feb 18 3:38) i truly empathize w/ each and every one of you. each one, coming from a different angle, makes sense. but after naturally angrily judging Nadya, doctor & sperm donor boyfriend, all are left with one problem: exactly how to provide for the 14 little ones.

How about starting a KIBBUTZ? California’s sunshine earthquakes and greenery are just some of the marvels of this state of being that attract the forward-thinking of the entire universe to come and begin/continue the renovation of the planet. Once announced and organized, the idea would grab catch like wildfire:

AIMS: (1) form a commune of single or married FAMILIES
(2) all children are RAISED IN COMMON .. together .. with parents rotating roles of pre-school teacher .. clothing mgr .. cook .. bottle washer .. etc
(3) those parents not actively involved with children’s needs will be WORKING at the Office or Ranch or Factory or whatever the business of the kibbutz, thus providing the INCOME.
(4) NO GOVERNMENT or PRIVATE HANDOUTS NEEDED.

Children simply deserve better than this. The sad fact is that it will not work out in the children’s favor. You are dealing with human beings, not circus animals trained for entertainment. I watched as the hospital was bursting with pride as they gushed about how well orchestrated births went. No matter that some of them will have life-long disabilities, who cares–look what the doctors accomplished. Taxpayers will, ultimately, shoulder this in one form or another-we’ve already paid hundreds of thousands……

I AGREE WITH MOST PEOPLE SPERM DONORS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GRAND MESS .THIS SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED TO HELP COUPLES WHO COULD NOT HAVE CHILDREN INITIALLY .
IF THE USE/OR MISUSE OF THEIR SPERM IS TO BECOME THEIR RESPONSIBILITY GUESS HOW MANY MEN WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP OUT?”DR FRANKENSTEIN”IS THE REAL CULPRIT HERE
HE HIMSELF SHOULD BE BEFORE THE MEDICAL BOARD ,THIS WAS HIS RIGHT AS A PHYSICIAN TO SAY NO I WOULDN’T DO THIS FOR YOU,BUT NO HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIS FEW MINUTES OF FAME IN THE SPOTLIGHT.WHO REALLY GIVES A DAM? MY HAT GOES OFF TO THE POOR GRANDMOTHER WHO ALREADY BEARS THE BURDEN OF 6 FATHERLESS KIDS UNDER HER ROOF.
THAT PSYCHO B—- THESE BABIES NOW HAVE AS A MOTHER WILL BE BACK IN THE NEWS AGAIN.BEFORE LONG .CHILD SERVICES SHOULD HAVE HAD A SOCIAL WORKER SLEEPING OUT ON THAT FRONT LAWN TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE 6 KIDS SHE ALREADY HAD.I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE TAKEN OUT OF HER CUSTODY,AND PLACED IN CAPABLE HOMES. NOW ALL SHE’S GOONNA BE IS A BEGGIN B—-.I KNOW FOR A FACT SHE WAS COUNTING ON RAKING IN THE BIG BUCKS
FROM TV OR SOME COMPANY TO PAY HER WAY.EVEN JOHN AND KATE HAVE PROFESSIONAL JOBS.THE DUGAS ,OWN THEIR OWN HOME THEY HAVE A BUSINESS,THEY ARE MARRIED,THOSE KIDS KNOW THEIR FATHER AND SEE HIM EVERY DAY .YOU DUMB BUNNY BEING A
GOOD MOTHER IS HARD WORK ,ITS NOT A JOKE .GOD HELP BABIES AND FOOLS WE KNOW WHAT PART YOU PLAY.

The sperm donator should not be held responsible for what the clinic does. If I were to donate sperm, I would expect that the clinic would use it to assist persons who were unable to have children & had the emotional & financial ability to bring children into the world. The clinic shows it is as irresponsible as the the person they impregnated. This is a woman who has no viable means of support & lets her mother care for her children. She is living off the system-disability & food stamps. She should have finished her schooling & gotten a job prior to impregnating herself again. She can’t take care of the six she already has. What is going to happen to the other 8 children? She expects people to support her. She is NUTS!!!!! She is totally irresponsible. Does she not care at all about the children? She is something she chose to do. She was not married. She did not have sex without protection. She deliberately got herself impregnated. I do not feel sorry for her. I feel sorry for the poor children that she bore, including the first six.

Pretty narrow-minded view of the process if you ask me. It’s the doctor who crossed the moral and ethical line, by impregnating her. The donor, is nothing more than a donor; much like a blood donor, or equivalent.

The physician in question knew her background, and made a choice to accept a large amount of money for the (dis)service he has provided.

At this point, he is the one who should bear the responsibility of his actions, much as her.

Although I hate to admit it, I feel taxpayers should pay for these children. That being said, I envision it differently than this mother does. I feel all 14 children should be put into adoption agencies where they can have capable, loving, and mentally competent parents. The children are the important thing. Also, the State needs to bar the mother from anymore children. She should work the rest of her life to pay the state for having to take care of these Children. I feel the father is morally responsible, but not at fault. He should take some responsibility in this case but not so much that it should affect the rest of his life. The most at fault is the mother, not him.

The doctor who gave the IVF treatments should be liable for the care of these children, not the sperm donor. Most sperm donors believe they are helping a responsible couple or single woman who would not otherwise be able to have a baby. In most cases he would assume the end result would be a wanted and very well cared for child. We have learned that only four of her children have Dave Solomon listed as their father on their birth certificates. Has anyone considered the fact that Mr. Solomon didn’t want Nadya to give birth to anymore of his children after the second set of twins were born? Who owns the embryos? Who has the right to implant them? Even against the sperm donor’s will? And now that the children are here, I can see how Mr. Solomon would not want to be in the public eye. How can he say he never wanted or intended on Nadya having 14 children now that they are here? They are his offspring and he probably feels terrible what these kids will be subjected to and forced to endure the rest of their lives. He is in a really tough place.

Comment by J Hamilton:
February 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am
“I think the doctor who did the invitro should be made to support all 14 of the children!!”
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Ditto – at least he should have his license taken away. He’s no different from a doctor-shopped pill pusher except he’s set up innocent kids to be ruined by a mentally ill mom. Doctors are supposed to help people – this one has hurt a lot of people.

I don’t care about her background. The state should jump in and take
the children away from her. She is unfit and a LEACH. Set an example
for other idiots who are abusing the system. They should not be allowed
to keep this house.

If the government doesn’t come down on her, you are opening the door
for more WELFARE FRAUD. This is a DISGRACE!!! Women come into
this country and pop-out children just to get into the system.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

What about the doctor? Didn’t the doctor know she had these other six children? yes. Didn’t the doctor know she had no income. Yes. Can we not hold this unresponsible doctor accountable? Poor, really poor, choice in his “medicine.”

Bad doctor.
Bad, bad doctor.

Just because you have the ability does not make it okay to do it.

The doctor should be held accountable no doubt. He either did not do due diligence or implanted despite knowing her situation. Her disability claim settlement should be returned, but she’s now made herself judgment proof financially unless she really is getting payments for those “performances” on TV. DCS will no doubt at least keep her on constant radar for two years until the hoopla dies down. If the sperm donor personally knew her and donated only once, he’s still legally responsible. If he was a blind donor, did not know her he is not responsible.

However, the long term responsible action for IVF is to require home studies the same as those required for adoption. If they pass, they are allowed IVF. If not, no IVF. It should be required to be done by a non affiliated agency to the doctor or clinic. As a society we do not allow adoption without home studies, we should not allow it for IVF or any other fertility treatment given it now results in multiple births.

I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THOSE BABIES TO HAVE BEEN BORN INTO THIS SAD SITUATION I KNOW FOR A FACT SHE WAS COUNTING ON THAT BIG PAYOFF TO SOLVE ALL HER PROBLEMS.MY HAT GOES OFF TO THAT POOR GRANDMOTHER WO HAVE TO DEAL THESE FATHERLESS KIDS UNDER HER ROOF.THE HOSPITAL SHOULD NOT EVEN RELEASE THOSE BABIES UNTIL SHE CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM .CHILD SERVICES SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAMPED OUT ON HER FRONT LAWN TO PROTECT THE OTHER 6. I SAY PLACE EVERY ONE OF THEM IN OTHER HOMES.AND “DR FRANKENSTEIN” HE SHOUD BE UP BEFORE THE MEDICAL BOARD ,ALL HE THOUGHT ABOUT WAS HIMSELF AND A FEW MINUTES OF FAME.JUST WATCH THIS PSYCHO B—- WILL STAY IN THE NEWS,NOW WE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PICK UP THE TAB FOR HER SELFISHNESS.GOD HELP BABIES AND FOOLS,WE KNOW WHICH PART SHE PLAY,YOU DUMB B—- BEING A “GOOD MOTHER”IS HARD WORK.

The fertility clinic and the doctors involved in this outrageous birth of 14 bab2es without the concern for the babies future should be punisehed. They should be held liable for the babies upbringing. Starting right away, they should pay child support. This whole thing disgust me and the people around me here. We may look into a law suit to hold the fertility clinic responsible for the babies upbringing. And I don’t like the lunatic mother sitting there as if she has done something good.

Absolutely agree with you! In all the discussions about the mother and grandparents, very little has been said regarding the father. Even though he was just the sperm donor, he does and should bear some responsibility, especially since he already knew Nadya; he was no stranger. After the initial 6 children were born from his sperm, and he could see (or should have seen) the struggles she had raising them, I think it was his moral responsibility to make it known to Nadya and her doctors that no more children should be born from his sperm. Now I don’t know the legal aspects involved with this type of procedure and maybe once his sperm is donated he has no more rights to say anything regarding their use, but at least he could have made his feelings known. Also, perhaps there should be a review of how the whole process works, and the sperm donor’s rights to limiting the number used to impregnate. We would all certainly like to hear what the sperm donor/father has to say. All the points you made in your blog are very valid. Thank you, Dr. Keith, for bringing this to our attention!

I and most people in this country agree with you. But unfortunately, I believe that the majority is not being heard. What makes the headlines are those that are so far left that they think they are not responsible for anything! The government should pay for it according to them. Their government should take care of those babies knowing they will not be able to be raised normally. And the doctor that did this! He should hold SOME responsibility too. Talk about low morals! Obviously there were no morals involved in this decision or procedure. Those children should be taken away from those people and given a chance to be raised in a better place with parents that will able to give them the attention they need.

That’s what happens when you pay people not to work and awards them bonuses for each child they have. How hard is it to figure out what the consequences will be.
There’s a big difference between helping those who can’t work and paying those who won’t work.

Angelina Jolie has given birth to three biological children and adopted three others. There is no comparison between nadya and Angelina Jolie. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have taken responsibility for their children. They have the means to support them, educate them, and the ability to love and nurture them.

My husband and I also have three biological children and three adopted children. No, we are not modeling after the Jolie-Pitt’s. Our family was complete in 2004. It is a blessing and commitment to have a large family. But our children are our priority. They are being brought up in a loving home environment and are loved and nurtured and well cared for. We are not wealthy but are financially stable and are able to make ends meet. We have never been on any welfare or food stamp program.

I UNDER STAND THAT EVERY ONE IS UP SET AND SO IM I I HAVE RAISED 3 OF MY OWNE AND MY CARRER NOW AND HAS BEEN A FOSTER PARENT. YOU SAY TAKE THEM AWAY BUT DO YOU REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST FOR A CHILD TO BE IN CARE. (MORE THEN ON ASSISTANCE). THE KIDS THAT I HAVE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACK GROUNDS AND NOT ONE HAS BEED TAKEN BECOUSE THERE PARENT HAS TO MANY KIDS. THE FOSTER SYSTEM IS FULL AND IS IN NEED OF PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND HELP. MOST HOMES ARE ONLY ALLOWED 6 KIDS BUT THERE IS AN AGE FACTOR TO SO IF THESE KIDS WERE TO BE TAKEN THEY WOULD BE SEPERATED. THERE WOULD BE MORE MONEY SAVED IF PEOPLE WOULD GIVE UP USED ITEMS AND TIME TO HELP. IT FEEL WRONG IN WHAT CHOICE SHE HAS MADE BUT IT WILL NOT GO AWAY SO HOW DO WE HELP THE KIDS WHO ARE THE MOST INPORTANT. ( I DONT FEEL IF WE HELP THE KIDS IT IS FOR HER IT IS FOR THE LITTLE ONE TANGLED IN THIS )

I concur and I propose that all sperm/egg donors have to sign forms of parental responsibility if the parent who wants the child ever proves unfit or unable to support their child(ren). The whole egg/sperm donor phenomena has amounted to cultural acceptance of the purposeful creation of dead-beat dads (and moms in the case of egg donation.) Basically the anger that my adopted family member has toward his father whom he’s never met because he was basically a sperm donor who thought no further than the sperm deposit could easily represent the anger that any child of a sperm/egg donor might feel toward the abandoning parent. And I feel this way towards ANYONE who donates sperm or egg, no matter the recipient. As pointed out above, there are enough children in need of loving families. As a Christian I am even more appalled at the Christians who choose IVF rather than adoption. Children have a right to parents. And parents have an obligation to their offspring. Thank you for finally drawing attention to the deadbeat dad in this story!! Some people who don’t believe there is a substantial genetic difference between a hair or fingernail and the components of a human embryo with its own DNA (notably, those who are for abortion) might argue that one can’t be an actual parent because what the parent gave up was nothing significant… But hair and fingernails don’t traditionally grow into children who need parents, love, care and an education when they are placed in a womb.

Thank you Dr. Keith for your “ooooooh so wise words of wisdom”. How refreshing to hear some rational, MORAL thinking on this very serious issue. You have certainly thought it through. God help those children of Ms. Suleman.

This is truly a sad story. I want to say that vilifying this woman is the wrong thing to do… now. I am not a psychiatrist so I will simply say she does not seem to me to be an emotionally well person. I would like to think we evaluate the stability of an individual who requests a procedure like this but that didn’t happen.
That being said, maybe it is time for our society to step in and put the lives of these children and, might I add, the thousands of other children living in unstable situations ahead of the “parental rights”. I am saddened every day to read of children being abused, neglected and killed as the result of inadequately equipped parents. The fact that an individual can give birth does not mean they have the faculties necessary to raise a healthy child.
I don’t know how to do this but the discussion should begin around this concept.
Let us think about the children, realize that our systems enabled this woman to have the procedure and didn’t look to her abilities (mentally, physically, and fiscally). Let’s do what is right for them, change what needs to be changed, and then fund it!

Excellent points, doctor.

This is a sad situation, I feel very sorry for the children (all 14 of them). I also believe this woman is a liar, we simply do not know if she is telling the truth with regards to the sperm donor. The unfortunate truth is she will continue to get welfare, food stamps, etc…

At this point the best way to deal with this problem is for the news media to STOP any further coverage, take away her public forum, limit her welfare and food stamps. Most of all child protection services willl need to monitor Nadya’s parenting skills, the IVF doctor and the person who fathered these children should also bear some of the burden which will fall on the taxpayers of California.

The donor should not be held responsible for a couple reasons.
1) No one knows how it came to be that he agreed to donate. She might have told him that she was going to use a sperm bank anyway but she would prefer to have his genes (i.e. go with the devil you know). If a platonic friend of mine came to me and asked me for sperm and I agree to it, then the doctor turns it into 8 babies, are you saying I should be responsible? (I know in this case the donor wasn’t platonic, but the issue is the responsibility of the donor, not what relationship the donor has with the patient.) Which leads to:
2) Sets a bad precedence. If my brother needs a kidney, or bone marrow, and I donate it and he dies from complications (maybe even complications from malpractice), does his widow get to sue me? Hey, I knowingly gave it. It wasn’t anonymous.

Did this donor show bad judgement? Yes. Should he be liable? No.

One further analogy: I know you have a drinking problem. At 8am I let you borrow my car for the day. 5 hours later you get drunk and run over a pedestrian with my car. Did I show bad judgement? Possibly (especially if you had a bad driving record.) Should I be liable? No.

These Babies can’t go home to her. DCFS has to see that it is logistically impossible to care for these babies. Babies that tiny will need to be fed about every 2 hours. Takes about 1/2 hour, you can’t just prop them up with a bottle. That is, what 6 hours per baby to just feed them. Hmmm 6X8=48. Now figure in, changing them, carrying a fussy baby, carrying a not fussy baby. Then of course there is the attention that the other 6 need. Which would have been a full time job in and of itself. To expect this woman to work is unrealistic. Do I have a solution? No! But they can’t go home with her. Not one of them. Not for one day!

Interesting question. Some writers are saying that the clinic that impregnated this deranged woman should be held responsible. She should have been subject to psychological tests, financial stability tests, etc. before she was allowed to procreate. I agree that common sense dictates these ideas. However, in the U. S. today, can you IMAGINE the public outcry and lawsuits against any company that required these common sense ideas before allowing someone to have IVF? “Why, how DARE they ask those personal questions, first! We should sue!!! My mental health or financial situation is really none of their business!!” Unfortunately, we reap what we sow and in this case 14 innocent children will pay the price for our litigious “something for nothing…I’m entitiled to it!” society because the clinic couldn’t afford the consequences if they asked her, or any other mother-to-be these questions first. Such a shame.

There ought to be a law against this kind of irresponsible behavior. She should be in jail beside the Doctor who performed the implantation. All of the babies shouls be given to loving parents, there are many good couples not able to have kids that would love to adopt.
Shame on us for allowing this to happen!

I certainly agree with Dr. Albow’s piece centering on holding the sperm donor as morally and ethically responsible for the welfare of these innocent babies.

I am not a medical specialist, nor have I seen or read all of the interviews with Nadya Suleman, but those I have clearly demonstrate the psychological delusions of this woman. It’s frightening beyond words to realize these children are being raised by this individual. Because of her dependency on government assistance and her scarily placid, yet delusional behavior; it is that same government who should be interceding on behalf of the children’s welfare. Demand a complete psychological review of Nadya Suleman by a panel of unbiased, medical experts. I will hazard a guess the results of said review would be followed by legal action to remove the children from her “care” in addition to Nadya receiving the immediate medical attention she needs.

I challenge those in the medical community previously or post involved in treating Nadya Suleman to find their moral and ethical backbone and begin efforts to rectify this atrocity.

I am a mom of two and married and I dont agree with what she has done but to try and have her kids taken is so wrong what did this woman do yes she has 14kids and receive benefits you know how many people in the world is like that then why should she be singled out.Then I guess everyone else kids should be taken also and as far as the tax dollars look at how it is being used now is no one outraged about that.If things keep getting bad we all will be on assistance but to take those kids and put them in a system where so many kids are is wrong and no one even thinks about that where is the support for them someone has to pay for them thats in the system already so that arguement makes no sense.Their is another lady with17kids and jon and kate plus8 where is the outrage.Its easy to try and take what someone else has and to talk and to judge but its not easy to do it to ourself.She has done nothing wrong and she can support them just like we all support ours give the lady a chance and to the tax dollars is already at work so everyone that receive assistance need their kids taken also. As far as health concerns kids are born everyday with some kind of health concern you want their kids taken also.God is not going to bless that lady whith those kids and not take care of them there are so many kids being hurt yet no one is speaking up for them things are backwards.All the kids are in the system and no one is helping them most of the time but yet you want to put more in.

To me, the biggest question is why in the world would ANY doctor or clinic allow this to happen?!
The doctor/clinic needs to be hauled in for an explanation to all taxpayers. This question has not had near enough attention. All media needs to stop interviewing this woman, adding to her noteriety only encourages others to maybe do the same thing. I feel for all her children, they had no choice in their parent(s)

Well said, sir.

I completely agree with your comments. This is a travesty and I think the father and the doctors who contributed to creating these children need to pay for their support or that these children need to be taken away from this woman and be put up for adoption. We the taxpayers should not be responsible for this mess.

Do some of you not get that this is a freak occurrence and no legislation to limit the number of babies a woman can have is necessary? As far as whether she got the sperm from a donor or an ex husband or friend does matter, an anonymous donor would hold no responsibility but a known donor should because he donated specifically so SHE could bear his children. He didn’t donate to so that anyone could use his sperm, he knew exactly where it was going to.

I certainly don’t want anyone telling me how many children I can have, nor do I want a typical sperm donor to live in fear of a child support suit, but this isn’t the case. The problem with it is, that many people will use this case to promote their agenda. Planned Parenthood, Welfare Reform, Adoption Agencies, etc….

And for those of you that said take the babies away because she can’t afford them… that isn’t legal. As long as she is not neglecting or abusing them, there would be no basis for removal. And we wouldn’t really want that slippery slope. What happens if you have 1 or 2 children and you come upon hard times? Do you want someone to come along and take your child/ren away because you can no longer afford them? Or would you prefer to receive temporary help from a private agency or even the state or federal government to get back up on your feet so you can support your child/ren? We have to think before we let the knee jerk reaction take over!

Think Think Think!

I feel the doctor who implanted the embryos should pay for the children. Perhaps if this was the consequence fertility doctors would be more careful about how many are implanted and if the mothers were stable enought to be a parent. I think the fourteen should be cared for by the doctor.

Dont you people SEE what is really going on here???? Some are jealous of this woman,some really think she will make money from us as taxpayers,some are jealous that this woman may make a deal and make money after having 8 children and show biz stepping in!!! I think the later is the greatest concern!!!! Jealously is a green monster!!! We dont get ONE dime from anyone for our children!!! Nine of whom have graduated and moved out of the house. Three are in the military,2 of whom are in Iraq at this very moment. Ive had people approach me and say how can you love 10 at one time and give them the attention they need? Its easy we chose this and love our children very much!! Where were others when they were put up for adoption and NO one else wanted them!! Im saving you taxpayers so dont worry about that part!!! Just dont tell me I cant love and take care of 19. Nine of my children will strongly disagree with YOU!!! The first nine all have familes of their own and are doing Great NO one is on welfare,some have degrees and some are protecting you from harm!!! NO Im not tooting my horn its just God gave all of us a job and He will complete what He has begun in us. I love my life and wouldnt have it any other way!! I love the hugs and the late nights with collic, the tons of homewook,the little spats All of IT!! BLessings to ALL Have a Blessed day!!

It would appear that the Father of all these children would be liable for child support. That could perhaps be say $300 per month per child or a total of perhaps $4200 per month or what ever the legal amount would be determined.

This is the completely most disturbing story I have ever heard of, you really can’t write this stuff!!

I also beleive this so called Admirer of freaky woman should be held monetarily responsible for all the sperm he donated to his mentally deranged woman!

If he admired her so much why not marry her? Give her and the Kids a name and home and be a respectable family? Why give her your sperm so she can make more mouths for the taxpayers to feed in this country!
You and Octo Crazy made these kids along with Dr Insanity so I think all three of you should be held responsible for your actions, sperm donor, crazy woman and dr looney tunes!

I really cannot imagine where the morals went on this story! Somewhere between Nadya’s insanity or greed or Dr. Crazy? But where ever the Morals went they really need to be brought back if this case goes under the radar God only knows what other loons lurk out there wanting some sort of fame and compensation for overproduction of babies???!!!

I think the father, the mother and the doctor should be held financially liable, and if they cannot the children should be adopted out. Where is CPS?!?!? this is an abuse situation waiting to happen! What kind of a doctor did this? He should be investigated too! Why should the american tax payers be held responsible for these children, someone should sue the doctor for this. what if she decides to have more children?? after all, she will make a killing in state money for so many kids, and the kids will be neglected. who in the world is going to make sure those kids are taken care off? This women needs to be commited and the children placed in a secure home with emotional stability. My gosh! Does anyone care enough to intervene here? we need to pass laws preventing doctors and women like Nadya suleman from doing this. Did he not see she was emotionally unstable!! She lied on the today show and said she is not recieving any aid from the state..when in fact, she is completely dependant on the state for her livlihood. she is unstable and a liar. I guarentee you she will milk this situation for all its worth and the children will be paying the ultimate price of her stupidity the rest of their lives…IF they survive!!

I am surprised at the outrage against this woman. I believe she should not bring children into the world without the wilingness/or ability to provide for them and especially without a father in the picture. But what amazes me is the hypocrisy by the pro-choice movement. On one hand, they beat the drums of “women’s choice” to do whatever she wants with her body, and then turn around and malign a woman who excercises that choice. She could have aborted or murdered 7 of the babies and she would have been hailed, but giving them life is apparantly such a crime. What hypocrisy! Does a woman have a right to choose whatever she wants when it comes to reproductive choices or not?

I looked up Fertility cost and found that most clinics charge at the least $12,500 per implant! So where exactly did Octo Crazy get the money?
This is an issue that ways heavy on my mind because I have a really bad feeling she used disability money to pay for her insanity!!!

I have even gone so far as to ask the President to please get our Government to investigate where and how disability and welfare money is spent! I think this should be made mandatory especially after this has all come to light!

Not only has OctoCrazy gotten more than 6 implants costing at the least $12,500 each she has also has had lip work done, nose job and she get her fake fingernails done!

So where is Octo Crazy getting all this money? Now that her own Mother may be losing her home yet Octo Crazy seems to find money to pay for all sorts of things considering she hasn’t worked in 7 years???

where is that Money Tree I want some?

$800.00 for collagen for lips. Thousands for nose job. $30,000 for two sets of invitro. $15.00 for acrylic nails. Does any money go for the kids and her mothers mortgage, or does the government have to pay everything?

Keith Ablow, you’re singing my song. Human procreation is about emotional RELATIONSHIP between parent and parent, and parents and child. Every child has a natural right to know both his/her parents and to have ongoing nurturing from them. I am a “progressive” who has for many years been horrified by the sperm & egg donor indusry which treats children as inanimate objects, as a “product” from a baby factory. Both mother and father are equally responsible for the children they produce, for as long as they live.
Anne Russell PhD, retired family counselor/mediator, mother of 4, grandmother of 10

The doctor did it for money and Nadia as well. The government is being exploited. She doesn’t want to work, and he wants to get richer.

While I agree with most of what has been said, I am surprised at the outrage against this woman. I believe she should not bring children into the world without the wilingness/or ability to provide for them and especially without a father in the picture. But what amazes me is the hypocrisy by the pro-choice movement. On one hand, they beat the drums of “women’s choice” to do whatever she wants with her body, and then turn around and malign a woman who excercises that choice. She could have aborted or murdered 7 of the babies and she would have been hailed, but giving them life is apparantly such a crime. What hypocrisy! Does a woman have a right to choose whatever she wants when it comes to reproductive choices or not?

One cannot expect a “sperm donor” to except the responsiblity of paying for the children. That is why they are supposed to be donors, with no identity other than their backgrounds; i.e. education, career, genetics,etc. In this case, I find the case of calling the “sperm donor” a donor to be rather a misnomer. After all, she knows who he is, his name, and seem to be “friends.” And as I have seemed to note in what I have read, the children will have his last name? Is this correct?

If this being said is all true, then it would seem she is merely trying to procreate without fornicating thus are we to also call her a VIRGIN? This woman is more than just a nut case with issues.

Yes taking these kids away from her to put in different homes is going to be costly, probably more so than giving her assistance. But in the long run, we are talking about the health and welfare of these children and leaving them in a home with a narcissitic lunatic seems to be the worst choice of all no matter the cost. Watch out everybody. Ever hear of Munchausen By Proxy. She seems just the type to have that little bit of crazed thinking kick in real soon.

LORD, I beg you to watch over these children and put them in a safe place where they can grow to happy, well mannered, educated, normal children. Thank GOD the grandmother seems to be on level ground. But she is ready to go over the edge!

I would like to add that if this woman had tried to adopt a child, they would have turned her down because she isn’t qualified. In fact they would have laughed at her application – what you don’t have a job, you are on welfare, already have 6 children, live with you mother and your house mortgage is in default ($23,225 behind in payments) and you want to adopt a child? Hmm let me think….UM NO!!! So she can stroll in and spend all that money for IVF and have as many as she wants. There’s no screening process for that apparently. I agree the Dr who did the IVF should be liable for the children as well as the egg and sperm donors (I refrain from calling them mother and father).

Our nation and the world have been going down this slippery slope for decades now, (does anyone know whatever happened to little Louise Brown, the first “test-tube baby”)?
When we view a child of as an inconvenience, or a thing we can create ourselves, on a whim, or “iwant it now”, or conceive, freeze, and “have” when it is convenient, no wonder our children suffer. They are now a commodity having, not intrinsic value, but a so-called value based on what they can or cannot do for us! We as a society have lost our moral ground in the name of Choice!

I think that the physician involved is totally to blame. He/she is suppose to be the educated professional in all of this. It doesn’t take much brain to donate some sperm, and does the sperm donor have any contol over how many eggs are fertilized? And for all those people who want the kids “taken away,” do you realize how many children are already in the foster care system awaiting homes? Are there guarantee’s that a child will have a better life if being raised by other parents they may later divorce, be pedophiles, lose their homes/jobs, etc. A psych/financial/home eval should have been performed on the mom after the second baby prior to implanting her with a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc child.

These children need support. Money and people. I hope she does get a book deal and TV interviews and that she is paid well for it. I hope that she uses that money to buy a house large enough for all her kids and to buy what they need and to pay for the help (nannies) that she needs to get through each day.

I do not wish this for her sake. I believe she is a nut-case…but part of that results from the fact that I am pro-choice and she is pro-life. And from the fact that she had her first six kids and kept on trying because she was lonely. In my opinion, that’s a BAD reason to have kids.

SHE does not deserve this money. This situation is not her kids’ fault, and they will suffer if she doesn’t cash in on this opportunity. I hope that the negative backlash, death threats, boycotting ends because she is just one woman and her kids need our help…not our condemnation.

What about the doctor who implanted here with the embryos? I think he should bare the responsibility, too. Just because someone hands over the money does not give them the right to have a “litter of pups”.

While she was out procreating, there are thousands of married couples in debt for intro procedures that did not take. How did she pay for this???????????? Or WE pay for this?? I do not have kids right now but feel like I am bearing the expenses as all the other taxpayers are. How was this allowed to happen? BTW, I AM an only child…

I agree that the doctor involved should have to pay for his perfidy. He was essentially playing God, and should be held responsible. Nadya hadn’t been home to see her other kids, last I heard. Her Mom can’t cover for her forever. I do hope that they can keep the twins together if they go to other homes. I feel very sorry for the children and the parents. It is a lose lose situation all around.

Get over it PEOPLE…We have major issues in this country, and this is not one. If the state of economy continues the way it is we will all be praying to GOD that the government will approve our food stamp application…This Woman and her 14 kids will be a true testament to the generosity and compassion of this country…If we can come together as one village and help this family overcome their hardship then IMAGINE what we can do for OUR country.

Blessed Be All

The doctor who made it all possible should be financially responsible for the last 8 children. He knew she was nuts with 6 children when he inseminated her with 8 more.

Im a wife to a very kind giving working husband with two jobs. We have been trying to have our own baby, but we have been unsucessful. Woman like my self hopes and prayes that we can have at least one baby of our own one day. This Nadya Should never had kids. I stongly believe that women that wants to have babies. They should be married with a man. Not of the same sex or being a single woman. Nadyas kids should be taken away to good finacialy stabled homes where they can be well taken care of. Then Nadya and the doctor and the father of these babies should be put away for some time. For the neglect of these children by not providing all of the childrens needs and. I believe that Nayda is a FRAUD!!!!!!! She has lied and gotten away with so much. She needs to be punished for good!!!! And I hope people wont try to become a selfless and a fraud like Nayda.

I too am disgusted by the selfish, demented woman who is 10 months behind in her mortgage payments and spends thousands of dollars on children she cannot support. The taxpayers will probably bear the burdrn for the million plus medical expenses for the babies. I hope social services does take them. Someone should commit her also.

Have you been on her web site? http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com She has the nerve to ask for donations to help her take care of children she knew she couldn’t afford! And she accepts Paypal! I won’t be giving her a dime. She knew what she was getting into. Stupid twit!

I am a Mother of 4 living children and a Grandmother and Great Grandmother and I love my children and all children and always have. I was like an onlu child and I always wsnted a sister or bsby brother but that did not happen however, I fail to understand how any normal thinking peron much less somone who claims to love children so much could have 6 children ( already with some problems) could even think about having more even one or two ( as she claims) so with that in mind and knowing that she is single, unemployed has no home and her Mothers home where they are all living is in forclosure, the onlycorrect thing tht can be done for these babies and i say again FOR THESE BABIES welfare is to have them place in homes with parents that want babies and can afford to give the, the love security and home that they can not get at this time from a peron who had them because she did not want to be alone?? The doctor should be investigated and so should his operation. but first and formost is the life of these babies which could include health problems down the line and in their future. Hopefully, the Babies will have someone take their future interests to heart and remove them to new homes before the bonding can take place.

Ridiculous. Judging by the intellect and psycological fragility of the mother – and that of any guy that would involve himself with such – it’s highly unlikely that the sperm donor had any clue as to the eventual extreme outcome of donating his sperm. Nor was he likely to be aware of of the current loopholes in the regulation governing IVF (and the doctor’s own weak morals) that enabled this quack of a doctor to ‘fertilize’ her with so many eggs…

It is the doctor that should be given all present and future bills for the support of his IVF-gone-amok experiment.

While I do not want this mother to gain financially from this I would much rather see her receive any compensation that would benefit the children THEY ARE THE VICTIMS HERE.

I love how people are judging this woman. I wish her luck. I may not agree with her decision but I hope people do help her. Those babies shouldn’t suffer anymore than needed. I hope people and companies wake up and help her. Are your taxes going up on your check cause she had these babies? NO, so shut up your whining. DCFS will watch the kids, if she is taking care of them well, they will let her keep them. Give her a chance before you judge, maybe her friends are alot better people than all you judgemental fools.

I believe this woman has more problems than she can handle and her children are going to suffer for it. Who is going to take care of these 8 babies plus the other 6 that she has….This is the most irresponsible act I have ever heard of….I can’t imagine the doctor letting this go on and the donor should have responsibility for all these children….it’s just crazy that a person would do this and bring all those babies into the world when she can’t afford the 6 that she has……poor children.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER AND CREATED THIS MESS.
NOT ONLY ONE TIME FOR 6 CHILDREN (WHICH I HAD THE OLD FASHIONED WAY 6 ONE AT A TIME),BUT A SECOND TIME WITH 8 MORE AT ONCE. I KNOW HOW MUCH HARD WORK IS REQUIRED FOR 6 WITH A HUSBAND THAT MAKES OVER 280,000.00
A YEAR. I ALSO HAVE GRANDPARENTS ON BOTH SIDES THAT HAVE ALWAYS HELPED AND LOVED THE CHILDREN AND WE STILL HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK
THAT IS REQUIRED GIVING EACH CHILD INDIVIDUAL ATTENTION, SCHOOLING,SPORTS,COLLEGE ETC. I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS WOMAN IS A DOCTOR FRANKENSTEIN NIGHTMARE. A PHYSCIAN (AND I USE THIS WORD LOSELY) THAT WOULD PREFORM THIS PROCEDURE ON A WOMAN THAT IS OBVIOUSLY MENTALLY IMPAIRED, NOT MARRIED,WITH CHILDREN THAT ALREADY HAVE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL PROBLEMS IS COMPLETLY UNETHICAL. THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS TO JAIL THIS DOCTOR, TAKE ALL 14 OF THE CHILDREN INTO FOSTER CARE OR UP FOR ADOPTION TIE THIS WOMANS TUBES AND MAKE SURE THE KIDS ARE RAISED BY COMPETENT AND LOVING FAMILIES.
WHAT A NIGHTMARE. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT MEAN WE USE IT. 2 CHILDREN AT ONCE IS MORE THAN ANY WOMAN SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO CARRY. I ALSO THINK THAT ALL WOMEN SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO A PROCESS THAT INCLUDES VISITS WITH MENTAL AND PHYSICAL TESTING AND PASS BEFORE THESE PROCEDURES. THEN WE WOULD NOT BE DISCUSSING THIS AT ALL. THIS WOMAN WOULD NEVER HAVE PASSED AND THIS DOCTOR IS A QUACK.

I agree. This is purely horrid and one of the most selfish ways I’ve witnessed of one trying to
get attention. I don’t know what she’s thinking, burdening her parents, not working and having babies she won’t be able to feed. It’s only a matter of time before they’re removed from her custody for their own benefit. But, it’s sad really, she’s created statistics, not giving children the right background for their creation, and not being able to provide each child with one on one attention and love to make them feel individual and special.

Ok…in response to Becky’s comment…are you prepared to financially help take care of these 14 children because the mother obviously isn’t?? I don’t think we as a nation or “village” as you put it should have to give her any kind of assistance to help her overcome her bad decision!! This is the type of thing that helps put this economy in such dire straits…people who LIVE on the system and EXPECT the rest of us that are hard working citizens to support them while they do NOTHING! It is a disgrace in my opinion and I certainly hope for the sake of the innocent babies that they are taken from someone who can’t even pay her mortgage and placed in loving, secure homes so maybe they have a chance at a half decent life and will be taken care of medically as I am certain there will be some medical issues with them…

Ok. I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of flack for this, but here goes.. I am disgusted at the news media for turning the lives of this woman and her family into a nightmare! It is none of anyone’s business how many children any person decides to have!! We do not live in a nanny state (yet)
that dictates to us who may have children and who may not!! Generally speaking, 14 kids to a single mother is not a good plan, but it does’nt sound like she actually expected that many. Perhaps those of us who are prolife ought to consider the fact that she did not want those embreos destroyed, nor did she want to ’selectively’ abort any of her children when she discovered she was having so many. I am also repulsed by the hypocrocy of so many people I have heard trashing this woman when a great many of them have used food stamps and medicade themselves!! By the way, many seem to have totally forgotten that Obama is going to use our tax dollars not only to fund abortion (irresponsibility) in this country, but in other countries as well. This lady is a drop in the bucket compared to that.

I honestly don’t think that the father has any moral obligation to this lady and her children. I see ads in the paper from companies asking for surrogate mothers or egg donors all the time. If he is obligated to these children that he donated his sperm for then are ALL of the people who donate sperm or eggs responsible for the kids it brings into the world? If so I doubt there would be a lot less people donating to help out people who are not able to have children of their own. The American People are just too nosey, WHO CARES! Leave the lady alone she is the one that will have to struggle raising these kids… I honestly think that it’s nobody’s business but hers and she shouldn’t care what anyone thinks.

I think you are totally way off base. If the donor didn’t know she was going to use his sperm again or even had anymore of it, he cannot be held accountable for her actions. I am a single mom, not by choice, but if I was impregnated myself by chicanery, it wouldn’t be the father’s fault. Why does this man have to pay, emotionally or monitarily, for something he had no knowledge of. If she used his sperm without his knowledge, he should not be held liable.

I can’t see holding the sperm donor responsible.

Suppose his sperm was used by a responsible married woman who had a single child whom she and her husband gave a good home. Suppose further, that the child was bright and accepted at a college, but unable to get a scholarship and the parents were unable to pay the way. Is the sperm donor required to provide financial support?

This was just wrong. I think the doctor that performed the procedure that resulted in this fiasco should be held responsible. There has to be some type of charges that he could face. I will be watching to see what companies assists or provides this crazy woman with money or supplies so I can make sure I never purchase any item made or sold by that company. This crazy lady has learned she can milk the system and she has done a good job of it so far. If companies jump out there and help her then it is possible there will be other young girls that sees doing something like this is a quick way to stardom and money. Stop it before it starts.

I think everyone is correct for being mad as hell. Second, Nayda, do you think Americans are that stupid, that we didn’t figure you out? We saw the pics of you giving your little ones a ride on your back. Hello, back injury? Phoney disability claim. Maybe you should apologize for committing insurance fraud to claim your disability money. Oh, we know your insurance claim is a phoney and you probably hid the money so the Medi-cal people could not find a a six figure back account and deny your Medi-cal benefits. Fine, you win another false claim. Next, you will pursue your Master’s Degree as a single Mom and you are entitled to free, 100% free education, books, tuition, transportation and child care. The benefits of being a single Mom and professsional “claimer” far outweigh the benfits of gainful employment and work ethic. We are not stupid. We figured out your transparent attempt to get money, a book deal, a reality show, free diapers for life, free med-cal care for your babies for life. How could you do this? Your poor children. They are so small and sweet and they need help from a responsible adult that will be accountable for her actions, instill work ethic in her children. YOu do know you will be blamed for everything that goes wrong in their lives. And they will suffer because of you. I hope you forget the plastic surgery and really focus in the 14 lives that you are responsible for guiding through infancy to adulthood. God, please help your children.

First to “Mac”… you need to do your homework. There is not an overpopulation problem going on. This is standard Liberal Rhetoric to justify abortions and birth control. The facts are different, go google them yourself, I’m not making this up. China and Europe for example now have negative growth rates. But that aside…

Does anyone see that the problem here is not whether she brought life into the world, and whether that part is good or bad… but that this life, these children, she purposefully and artificially manufactured? Despite the obvious danger to herself and them? One person wants to argue that “at least she gave life”… but really she “manufactured” life. One person wants to say we shouldn’t blame her for the fact that her house is foreclosing due to the cost of raising children, but she spent much more purposefully creating her children than most people have for retirement. Please stop defending her, there is no defense. The only thing we can do now is embrace her children as part of our society and help them become meaningful human beings.

Scott, you make sense! But you are way out there thinking too far outside the box. : ) Sorry… I too would like to stop encouraging dysfunction. Thank you for posting.

If this wasn’t some sick plan of manufacturing babies to exploit them for income, then it is surprising that she wasted no time hitting the talk show circuit. Rather than rush home to her other 6 after giving birth to the 8, she hit the talk shows.

With 14 children and just haven give birth to 8 at once, you’d think getting acrylic nails would not even be on your list of priorities. She is a publicity seeker hoping to cash in on this spectacle that she has meticulously choreographed like a broadway production.

What little has been made public of her parenting skills via video, she appears awkward with her own children in a house of chaos. How often is she actually there caring for them?

It is now being reported that she is interested in a 1.2 mil house – it only has 4 bedrooms. You could have a house built with 8 bedrooms for the same amount – may not be fancy, but would put the interests of the kids first. Why would you look at a million dollar home that doesn’t even have adequate sleeping space for all your children?

Hopefully someone will put a stop to her antics and she doesn’t end up on reality tv and destroying the lives of 14 innocents.

If the donor had a relationship or arrangement with the mother, does that not void the annonymous donor rights such as not being financially responsible for the children?

My opinion is that the NON-ANNONYMOUS DONOR and the PHYSICIAN should be hauled in for support. NOT a penny from the public tills. Also, investigate for fraud, back support, and repayment to food stamps, etc.

If this DONOR had a relationship, HE IS ON THE HOOK!

Yes, the “father” agreed to donate his sperm, however was probably not there for the process, and I’m sure by law had him sign under contract that he was only the sperm donor with no control or responsibility.

I say, how dare a woman who does not even own her own home burdens her parents and society with six children then with no job becomes pregnant again! It has been reported that she receives over 4,500.00 per month in assistance. About $1,764 per month is from workers-comp payments in which she was said to of injured her back! I have had 4 children and let me tell you back pain is a large part of pregnancy, How could she of carried that many children at once with such an injury existing? Someone must re-open that case and someone also should absolutly take those children away, this is an outrage and is criminal.

PS- get rid of that donation web site the only thing it feeds is ignorance!!!!

Yes, the “father” agreed to donate his sperm, however was probably not there for the process, and I’m sure by law he sign under contract that he was only the sperm donor with no control or responsibility.

I say, how dare a woman who does not even own her own home burdens her parents and society with six children then with no job becomes pregnant again! It has been reported that she receives over 4,500.00 per month in assistance. About $1,764 per month is from workers-comp payments in which she was said to of injured her back! I have had 4 children and let me tell you back pain is a large part of pregnancy, How could she of carried that many children at once with such an injury existing? Someone must re-open that case and someone also should absolutly take those children away, this is an outrage and is criminal.

PS- get rid of that donation web site the only thing it feeds is ignorance!!!!

Yes, the “father” agreed to donate his sperm, however was probably not there for the process, and I’m sure by law they had him sign under contract that he was only the sperm donor with no control or responsibility. I say, how dare this woman who does not even own her own home or have a job, burden her parents and society with six children then decide to become pregnant again with even more! As a mom of 4, I have a hard time giving my children the attention and monies needed. My husband and I work very hard to support them.

It has been reported that she receives over 4,500.00 per month in assistance. About $1,764 per month is from workers-comp payments in which she was said to of injured her back! Let me tell you back pain is a large part of most pregnancy, How could she of carried that many children at once with such an injury existing? Someone must re-open that case and someone also should absolutly take those children away, this is an outrage and is criminal.

PS- Fox, get rid of that donation web site the only thing it feeds is ignorance!!!!

Both donor conception and surrogacy fragment parenthood into its component parts which, as a rule, are safeguarded for the well-being of the child, including his sense of identity. If genetic ties don’t matter then why take precautions to keep moms & newborns together in hospital? Why not just use a ‘first in, first out’ policy, so that every woman leaves with a baby, regardless whether it’s her own? Why provide financial & social support to single mothers so they aren’t forced to relinquish them for adoption? Why pay social workers to help troubled families stay together?

What does it mean to be deliberately conceived without a father (in the case of lesbian/single women)? Or without a mother (in the case of single/gay men)? At least the children of single/lesbian women know there is an actual biological father, out there somewhere, whom they can dream of finding, perhaps via the http://www.DonorSiblingRegistry.com But when single/gay men buy eggs from an anonymous donor and hire a surrogate to ‘host’ the pregnancy (to avoid the surrogate becoming so attached that she refuses to hand over the baby to the ‘commissioning parent(s)’, there is no actual ‘biological mother’. How does anyone make sense of never having had a ‘mother’?

How have we, as a supposedly ‘civilized’ society, come to the point of allowing children, as well as human eggs, sperm & embryos, to become transactions in a commercial marketplace?

Really, all of you who are griping about “paying for her children”….. You need to open your eyes and look around at all the things you are already paying for in the world around you, and stop wasting your breaths complaining.

Dont make this woman the brunt of your anger at the world….sure, she is the one out there in the media, so it is easy to blame her. But if you think taking a stand finally against she and her kids is going to change the world, IT’S NOT! Stop, think, and make a real difference by voting, being active in your communities and donating to the causes that you DO believe in and support. Make a REAL difference!

Haven’t you heard the old “Be a part of solution, not the problem.” By complaining and taking a stand now, you arent really proving anything. You are just joining the witch hunt.
Find the bigger cause and do something about it…..

Ah, better.

What is really disgusting is the fact that John or Jane Doe who have never been in the system, and need just a little help like their child getting a tonsilectomy or appendectomy cause dad is laid off, don’t get it because resorces are so strained by people like Suleman who knows how to work the system. We, the people, by and large, at taxed to pay for John and Jane Doe, and wind up skewered by the Sulemans out there, and that includes having to pay for anyone coming to this country, yeah, I mean illegals. It rally scalds me to pay for Suleman much less illegals. When is our government going to wake up and realize we, the people, are saying loudly, NO.

Sperm banks and fertility clinics are just plain wrong. It’s playing god. Fertility clinics create life and destroy them at the same time. The father of the 14 kids is the responsible party. He started the ball rolling, he gave the keys to the car away.

The breakdown of the traditional family will be the doom of us all. Children need to be raised by biological loving parents. Period.

The Word of God says a man who does not take care of his family is an infidel.

I totally disagree with the author of this article. Many men all over the world are considerate enough to donate sperm, with the idea that it will enable a woman to conceive a child that she obviously has difficulty doing naturally. Women also donate their eggs to help couples achieve their dreams of becoming parents. The whole idea of artificial insemination donations is to help create life WITHOUT the responsibility of raising these children. In most cases, parents do not want the biological father to have any rights over the children either!

In Octomom’s case, you need to place blame on the physician responsible for implanting so many embryos. Again, IVF is supposed to help childless people have families. I can’t imagine why the doctor would help someone have more than 2-3 children, when their efforts should be focused on helping other people still waiting to become parents for the first time.

This doctor’s license to practice should be taken away. There may not be laws on the books regulating his behavior, but certainly ethics come into play here. How can it be ethical to keep producing children for a woman with no job or means of supporting a family? I’m not even touching on the need for a father in the picture; I’m trying to be objective here. This doctor’s actions amount to theft from the taxpayers; he knowingly help a woman conceive fourteen births when she was financial destitute and obviously mentally ill.

how come no one is yelling and complaining about the millions of dollars we have to pay in taxes to provide for the killing of the unborn

Wow, lots of assumptions of how the children would turn out. My mother is one of 8, and my father is 1 of 13. Yes back in the day there were super large families. NO I don’t think this is the smartest thing to plan as a single mom. But it surprises me how people are already laying out the future of these children. I am glad no one did this for me. I would have been a complete low self-esteemed failure. I had 2 parents that worked but what a horrible life. Just turn on your computer and read about children coming from 2 parent (step or otherwise) homes with one or two siblings that are killing, raping and torturing. And the thought that DFS could place these children into loving homes. Have you seen the reports on foster homes and some of the disfunctions that goes on there? I pray that she finishes her advanced degree and works and supports her children and she has the last laugh. As far as welfare, No I dont’ agree with paying for so many children. But if we want to stop with hers, what is the number. Women that have more than 3 or 4 or 6? Well there will be a lot of low income inner city moms in threat of losing their children! Wake up people, you have been paying for multiple babies from single moms for years. It just has not been televised.

Has anybody ever thought this guy is just starting to think about the possibility of a free ride himself? Hey, with all this publicity, There might be enough money coming in from book deals, interviews, and who knows, maybe a movie deal to provide a nice living for her, him, all the kids, and professional help to care for them!

I am in disbelief by all the criticisms Nadya, her doctors and now the sperm donor are receiving. It seems many people are completely misinformed as to why this woman kept all the embryos rather than selecting one or two, and those who have never miscarried have no idea of the trauma this can cause a woman who wants to have children. I hear all the time from pro-lifer’s how abortion is really terrifying and scars a woman for life, but to conceive a child, want to give life to it, then to have it doe unexpectedly and inexplicably is even more traumatic than making the choice to end a life.
Are people just outraged because she is unmarried and has been on disability? Get over it. She is not doing anything illegal, her children are well cared for, she is a competent mother. How she finds the means to care for her kids is her business as long as it is legal. I don’t believe she is getting a free ride anywhere.
As for her doctors-they obviously found their patient capable of carrying octuplets, they gave their patient medical attention she needed, there was nothing “Frankenstein” abut the procedure, so what is the real ethical question here? That another doctor got the spotlight than some of these other airbags?
And now the media and these self-proclaimed voices of ethics (such as Dr Keith Ablow here) want to be angry at the sperm donor. Is it really the public’s right to know who the father is? Isn’t anonymity part of the agreement of most sperm donors?
Get lives, people.

IVF Mom, I couldn’t disagree with you more. It doesn’t matter that she only wanted 1 more. She was not capbable to caring for the 6 she already had. As for “welfare” you think most parents receive because they send their kids to public schools, you are mistaken. Schools are funded with tax payers dollars, working families paying taxes to support their communities. If anyone should complain, it would be those who have decided not to have kids for whatever reason.
My husband and I have 2 kids and would love to have more but we know the financial burden and necessary sacrifices that you have to make to be good parents. We are going to love our 2 and leave it at that.

I agree Ms Suleman acted irresponsibly, but what about the other millions of children born out of wedlock, living on welfare. Why target one person when it’s the system that needs the attention of the American public. Everywhere you look, there are mothers with children trailing along behind them, being carried on each hip and living off of the system. These women know how to stop these pregnancies, they don’t want to – they get a pay raise for every kid they have, at the expense of taxpayers. Who cares about the biological father, there are millions of biological fathers who don’t support their children. Get over it!

Dr Keith you have some valid points – however – a sperm donor is simply that – somene who donates sperm. He has, in my opinion, no responsibility in the lives of these children. This argument doesn’t stand up- is it only because she had 14 kids that you feel he is responsible? Would you feel the same if she only had one? I do not think she is capable of raising these children- she appears to have some issues – however you cannot blame a sperm donor for that. Her parents should hold some responsibility – they live with her and know her better than anyone – should they not have put up a red flag when she was having the first 6 kids? It is so easy to criticize after the fact – but where were they as she was marching into get the eggs implanted? Could they not have alerted the Dr. or the welfare office or even the AMA? Also, they are enablers – if they don’t watch the children she would have had to make different arrangements for their living environment. Do not look for a scapegoat outside of this dysfuncional family unit – trust me they all played a role in this mess way before any sperm was ever donated – let alone after the fact.